That's about it alright - though I would certainly think that Koeman has not held back in training.
It's not like 30 years ago, players have all the aces these days, you wonder what exactly can be done. Discipline in training was lost under Martinez and we have a group of players used to being praised and cosseted.
The days of a player being intimidated by Ronald Koeman walking in are long gone.
As well as Koeman, it's time now for the senior pros to step up - we have two international captains in the back four, and the squad if anything, is weighted with aged players - it's their responsibility too.
After the derby defeat last year, I recall someone on here suggesting that Bill or one of the other directors should step in and speak to the players, it really was that bad. It should never come to that but the main issue is that we don't have a lot of vocal, mouthy players, older, or younger, in this group. There is not a great deal of leadership.
All I can think of currently is to get Duncan involved more - a bit more British grit would make a good counterbalance to RK and EK, but perhaps this is there already.
All the players are behind RK - I have no doubt about that.
Williams and Baines both did interviews after the game. Both of them looked distraught.
They care. They'll have had a hammering - I've no doubt - considering how angry Koeman was at the end.
He got things wrong, even though I can see the logic in his decisions - like starting McCarthy - and he'll have to learn from that.
But 12 games in and he's still getting used to this team, and I think quickly realising part of it just isn't cut out or able to adapt.












