The EU deal

peteblue · May 30, 2016

Rob17896 said:
Your choice.

Yep. I'd rather work with a powerful country that speaks the same language, has a similar culture and outlook on life and trade than be with a basket case of totally differing cultures whose history is based on fighting with each other on a regular basis and whose economy is going south at a rapid rate of knots.........

I'd still rather be on our own.......

peteblue · May 30, 2016

roydo said:
Well, in Eurovision they cannot be relied on.

But a general tarnishing of all Albanian males seems a bit steep.

Would you let one stay in your house......be honest........

tsubaki · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
Yep. I'd rather work with a powerful country that speaks the same language, has a similar culture and outlook on life and trade than be with a basket case of totally differing cultures whose history is based on fighting with each other on a regular basis and whose economy is going south at a rapid rate of knots.........

Anyone who trusts the Yanks has eaten more history than they have read and understood, especially if they hail from this country.

Rob17896 · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
Identify the help we got. The likes of Albania and the Balkans have done nothing but cause trouble in Europe. However you dress it up, we are a completely different people in terms of culture and adhesion to the rule of law. To ignore this is daft. If you think it's such a good idea then invite an Albanian male to live in your house, and let us know how that works out........

Pete. My point is that the EU pulls countries up to standards not the reverse. Does not always work, can always do better but that is the principle and one worth contributing to.
Also, the EU business grants and structural funds available in the past were vital to keeping areas like Liverpool from drowning. Just have a look at EU funded projects in the city and the grants that have been available. It has kick started lots of development. Ask anyone from the council. All the private money came in later on the back of EU investment. Speke/Garston a highly succesful example. Next Albania

roydo · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
Would you let one stay in your house......be honest........

Honestly? Wouldnt say no cos he was Albanian.

Would say no if he was a bulb mind.

peteblue · May 30, 2016

tsubaki said:
Anyone who trusts the Yanks has eaten more history than they have read and understood, especially if they hail from this country.

It was a choice of picking from two devils......I'd still rather be on our own, but if I absolutely had to pick a big economy to join with, it would be the USA rather than the EU.......

Jib in lad · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
It actually will be very easy as it's all mostly in place. People in the UK have to stop being scared of going back out into the big bad world and dealing in trade again. It really isn't that difficult.........

I never had you down as naïve ignorant yes but not naïve, interesting.

Rob17896 · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
Would you let one stay in your house......be honest........

peteblue said:
Yep. I'd rather work with a powerful country that speaks the same language, has a similar culture and outlook on life and trade than be with a basket case of totally differing cultures whose history is based on fighting with each other on a regular basis and whose economy is going south at a rapid rate of knots.........

I'd still rather be on our own.......

Pete. I am disappointed...and you looked so fetching in your photo. Starting to suspect you dont look like that at all.

peteblue · May 30, 2016

roydo said:
Honestly? Wouldnt say no cos he was Albanian.

Would say no if he was a bulb mind.

Fair enough......

Hibbertinho · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
It actually will be very easy as it's all mostly in place. People in the UK have to stop being scared of going back out into the big bad world and dealing in trade again. It really isn't that difficult.........

I'm intrigued, mate... I need you to elaborate a little more for me here - what trade relations are the UK going to enjoy with EU members post-Brexit? What changes will occur with respect to tariff and non-tariff barriers, for example?

peteblue · May 30, 2016

Jib in lad said:
I never had you down as naïve ignorant yes but not naïve, interesting.

Personal attacks don't work too well on here, I'm more than happy to oblige but it's not the done thing........

Jib in lad · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
Personal attacks don't work too well on here, I'm more than happy to oblige but it's not the done thing........

Sorry if you took it that way I apologise.

tsubaki · May 30, 2016

peteblue said:
It was a choice of picking from two devils......I'd still rather be on our own, but if I absolutely had to pick a big economy to join with, it would be the USA rather than the EU.......

Literally anyone in the world would be better than them, and I include the Chinese and Russians in that.

roydo · May 30, 2016

Hibbertinho said:
I'm intrigued, mate... I need you to elaborate a little more for me here - what trade relations are the UK going to enjoy with EU members post-Brexit? What changes will occur with respect to tariff and non-tariff barriers, for example?

Wouldnt VW, Audi, Mercedes, Renault, Fiat, and Lego be quite keen to keep flogging us stuff?

And wine.

daylightrobber · May 30, 2016

dandydan said:
Proof? Or is it just the usual left wing tactic of creating a grievance and exploiting it for votes?

2 pieces of research come to mind. One from Bristol University which is UK specific, one from Stanford and The Sorbonne in Paris which was Europe wide. Out and about right now, will see if I can find some info.