Again the dismissal of Wigan as not a comparison. Thing is mate, his predecessor actually got wigan midtable, Jewell established them in the league despite the financial odds of them doing it, bruce took them higher and Martinez then had 3 attempts at relegating them. How can this be ignored or dismissed as not being valid? YOu are assuming wigan were always going down, there are many factors that could have happened with a different manager that could have kept them up. The hard fact is Martinez did relegate them, Bruce and Jewell didn't. Right now, take away a world class strikers goals and how terrible the bottom 3 have been over 2-3 years, and i propose the question, has MArtinez not had a pretty significant safety net to make the league form look more promising than it actually has been? I was even fooled into thinking this was all bad luck back in December! or the difficult start, or just one of those games etc.
2 Ok you talk about goal difference being a reflection? I would argue that the team tactics are so poor that no matter how many we score, we havent got the tactics to win a game. Look at watford at the weekend, we score in injury time and then straight away we concede from a....SET PIECE! Go back to west brom in september, to palace, to norwich, to bournemouth and we have struggled all season to conceding these goals. So when you find yourself 14th in the league in April and you are still struggling conceding the same goals you did back in september (which remember Lukaku scored 2 assisted 1 to win that game) then you have to ask very serious questions about what is actually happening on the training ground? And considering Martinez's own words have dismissed the need to practice set pieces, then i can't find anything defendable there anymore. Him and his coaches clearly cannot fix flaws in the team, and if he tries to you get performances like last season!
3 We had lineker and came second. But as for this point mate, what did we do before lineker? We won the CWC and the league! So a terrible comparison to make because the team was already successful under our greatest manager so it is far cry from going from Moyes to Martinez. Especially when you factor in Rooney was never a linchpin in Moyes's team, Lukaku pretty much is the difference between us and a couple more league places alone not including the cup runs. As for Moyes 4th season, those things happen, look at Leicester this year, it is possible for a team to come together and do well. right now we have our senior players talking about missing chemistry, yet these players have been playing together for a fair few years at least, so what is the reason why we somehow lack this chemistry/team spirit/ or whatever you want to call it yet some of them had it under their predecessor? Because the minute you start to remove key members of the team and you don't have it, you get what newcastle / Villa have right now.
We know exactly what type of managers would come here mate, thats the thing. Would Mourhino go to Norwich city or Bournemouth mate? And why won't they? So if we are essentially a bottom end of the leage team, it would take a hell of a lot of money (see Benitez now) to have them even consider picking the phone up. Personally i dont want to employ a manager for money, i want a manager to come here with ambition and do so because we aren't the team we have been looking for 2 years. We look exactly like what we currently are, a team that is in danger of dropping even further the longer it goes on, if cleverleys header hadnt gone in vs newcastle (remember last touch of the game) then we would already be 16th. And that is one header, in one game i am referencing, against one of the only teams in the league martinez could beat, and their are 19th.
