Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Frank Gallagher]

That was the True Blue Holdings Everton.
Things have changed. Fingers crossed.

Untill bill is out the way ive got a feeling bobby will remain in charge...

 

[kithnou]

Untill bill is out the way ive got a feeling bobby will remain in charge...

I would be staggered if he has a say. He's not in charge anymore.

 

[Khalekan]

14th

FOURTEENTH

Lose at Selhurst and it will be 15th.

 

[kithnou]

Lose at Selhurst and it will be 15th.

No different to 5th. Oh forget it I can't do that humour any more...

 

[Khalekan]

What's the odds that he's met the owners every Monday Morning for a month, they've called it to sack him but he's hypnotized them with his utter positive nonsense week after week.

De Boer would be ace, mainly because he's not Roberto Martinez, but also because he seems like a guardiola/koeman/potchetino type, I'm basing that 100% on looks alone.

Genuine question.

If De Boer is so good how come he isn't at one of the big Italian or English clubs already?

 

[Sentinel]

I would be staggered if he has a say.

It's the only possible explanation why Martinez is still in charge.

As a former Marxist, of course I want revolution, but we grow older. Evolution is pragmatic. I think that's what we are seeing. It's a patience game, with a semi thrown in. Sit back and relax, let's see how the season plays out. If Kenwright and Martinez pull off the FA Cup, we're all winners. If it doesn't, the tide has changed they'll both be sidelined.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Genuine question.

If De Boer is so good how come he isn't at one of the big Italian or English clubs already?

True there is doubts but he has a playing and managerial CV that's way superior to the current inhabitant of the managers office.Our neighbours went after him but he rejected them.He was also the assistant manager of the dutch team that reached the 2010 world cup final.Mind you seeing that the dutch team in that world cup just butchered their way to the final that wouldn't exactly fit in with our school of science of principles.We can do better than De Boer but we could do a lot worse too.

 

[Lee Smith]

He needs to go. Let Royle/Ferguson/Royle & Ferguson handle the remaining games and semi.

You know El Fraudo will throw the derby to keep players fresh for the semi, then lose the semi.

I'm at this stage too myself now. I've wanted Martinez out since around Xmas but up until now even I wouldn't have agreed with your post, but I do now.

It's got to the point where things really can't get any worse. The team is lacking direction, motivation and most importantly, passion.

Get some kind of combination in of the backroom Evertonians, Royle / Sheedy / Ferguson / Unsworth, and see what they can do for the last month. A change of pace could do wonders for the team. And it's morale. Couple of league games before Liverpool, then maybe grab a result at the Pit and confidence going into the semi would be huge.

At the moment if things stay as they are it'll be the same drab, lacklustre and unmotivated mess we've seen for the last few months. We'll likely be equally as poor against Palace and Saints, get dry bummed by Liverpool just before the semi, and it'll be a car crash trip to Wembley.

It's a roll of the dice but seriously, what have we got to lose considering how things are at the moment?

This'll also give the board time to start sounding out a full time replacement for the summer without the guilt of 'going behind Bobby's back'.

 

[kithnou]

True there is doubts but he has a playing and managerial CV that's way superior to the current inhabitant of the managers office.Our neighbours went after him but he rejected them.He was also the assistant manager of the dutch team that reached the 2010 world cup final.Mind you seeing that the dutch team in that world cup just butchered their way to the final that wouldn't exactly fit in with our school of science of principles.We can do better than De Boer but we could do a lot worse too.

Those words need not be accepted then in choosing our next Manager.

 

[Aar_the_Toffees]

I'm at this stage too myself now. I've wanted Martinez out since around Xmas but up until now even I wouldn't have agreed with your post, but I do now.

It's got to the point where things really can't get any worse. The team is lacking direction, motivation and most importantly, passion.

Get some kind of combination in of the backroom Evertonians, Royle / Sheedy / Ferguson / Unsworth, and see what they can do for the last month. A change of pace could do wonders for the team. And it's morale. Couple of league games before Liverpool, then maybe grab a result at the Pit and confidence going into the semi would be huge.

At the moment if things stay as they are it'll be the same drab, lacklustre and unmotivated mess we've seen for the last few months. We'll likely be equally as poor against Palace and Saints, get dry bummed by Liverpool just before the semi, and it'll be a car crash trip to Wembley.

It's a roll of the dice but seriously, what have we got to lose considering how things are at the moment?

This'll also give the board time to start sounding out a full time replacement for the summer without the guilt of 'going behind Bobby's back'.

That's a great idea actually. The only important games left now are The derby and the cup semi (and hopefully final). For games like this you don't need tactics and tippy tappy stuff, but more so just spirit. More fight and desire than the other team and we win. That quartet you mentioned certainly would inspire that.

Along with that people forget this so still the best Everton team since the mid 80s, so we have the quality too. Imagine a team this good giving it their all. More results like our home games against Chelsea. And I daresay a Cup too.

 

[Sentinel]

long with that people forget this so still the best Everton team since the mid 80s,

No it's not. Not even remotely. The record speaks for itself, it's a media spin that looks good in headlines. Potentially, I'd say there is still a chance, but until they actually accomplish something. The jury has gone past out and the judge has given the verdict. Just a lot of hot air until we achieve something tangible. Then they get those kudos.

Remember, Latchford, Thomas, King and Mckensie, won f' all. That was supposed to be a golden generation.

 

[royvernon39]

The close season at EFC will require a manager of experience and intelligence. For that reason, the distant hope of FA Cup glory and his good transfer history I would stick with RM.

Most managers are crap. Utter dross. Look at Benitez and the flim flam Swede who conned his way to become England's manager. We got lucky with DM and the jury is out on RM, so remember that sacking someone is much easier than finding a good replacement.

 

[Sentinel]

Look at Benitez and the flim flam Swede who conned his way to become England's manager. We got lucky with DM and the jury is out on RM, so remember that sacking someone is much easier than finding a good replacement

Benitez was on a hiding to nothing taking that job. And it was a no risk appointment for both sides.

We didn't get lucky with DM, he was an appointment of his time. Keep us up and he did that, fair play. And got us to the the 7-5th trophy. Which sums up, where we've been for the gross mismanagement for over twenty years,

Sure you can accept that and buy into that mindset. Or you can say, after well nigh two decades of puerile [Poor language removed] that has been served up. I've had enough.

One thing is a certainty, if you tolerate this bollocks, than your kids won't thank you for it or buy into it. Those Kendall OUT slogans on his garage door were distasteful, for sure. At the end of the day, it didn't need a thousand cushions raining down on Goodison Park to know he needed to get his act together. They galvanised and proved all the doubters wrong.

The same applies to Martinez and the board.

 

[Igrok]

I would literally skip his pay day and quote him ... on another day mate, on another day...

 

[Igrok]

Here's some optimism for a change:

Have a feeling that Chelsea game was more down to the players and the connection they feel with our great club. They played their hearts out and showed the world how good we actually are. We beat a strong Chelsea side 2-0, and truly deserved it.

What I'm trying to say is that's down to the players wanting to end our long trophy drought, not because of Roberto's tactics. He's as clueless now as he was then. We will win the Cup this year. Why? Because we're the best team left, and when our players give it their all we will beat the two teams in our way.

Now here's some food for thought:

The players know they won't go down, so only give it their all in the cups. Lucky enough we have the most quality of any team left, so our all will be enough to win. What if- a big what if- next season a new manager comes in and actually gets us playing a style so that we don't only have to rely on our players's qualities but get our tactics right too?

Did you write letters to Santa when you were a kid mate?