MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
I'm hiding in a nuclear bunker for 3 hours while that game is on
Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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I'm hiding in a nuclear bunker for 3 hours while that game is on
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Baines is one of us but is he really.
He a millionaire who get paid for playing in an Everton shirt. I'm a massive fan of the lad before someone get on my back.
He a millionaire who get paid for playing in an Everton shirt. I'm a massive fan of the lad before someone get on my back.
toffee matt
Player Valuation: £60m
We'll win the Derby
We haven't won one in 6 years so logic sugests we'll have to win one sooner or later
We haven't won one in 6 years so logic sugests we'll have to win one sooner or later
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Would you say that if this same result had happened earlier in the season the reaction would be softer, since there was still a hypothetical "whole season" yet to play?
Makes sense if so. Hypothetical Everton were really good, weren't they? ....
I'll answer in here mate, cos it's more general than just today.
In all honesty, today's result wasn't that bad. The reaction is more down to a couple of seasons underperformance in the league. Add to that two lifeless performances against Arsenal and United and the utterly bizarre stuff Martinez said about Baines, and it all now looks pretty desperate.
For me, standing at Villa Park the other week when we conceded to go 3-1 down and seeing both team and fans panicking about holding onto that lead against the poorest side in the Premier League was pretty much it. At that point, I knew we weren't going to fulfill our potential under Martinez. Without a change at board level, we might have just been stuck with that, but, thankfully for the long term future of the club, both on and off the pitch, I don't believe mediocrity will be settled for any more.
As far as the poll goes on this thread, I'm still officially on the fence, but, even if win the cup under Martinez, there's no doubt in my mind that he needs replacing come the end of the season. At that point, I will wish him well. He's neither, as is sometimes said here, arrogant or a fraud, he's just not as good as a manager as I, and many others, thought he was, and we can do better.
As much as he can be, like...
None of us can actually play as well as he can, to make a living/fortune out of it. I get where you're coming from, but I do think, in a relative sense, he is one of us.
Cork Evertonian
Player Valuation: £50m
From a fan twitter.
His style of football might go down well in Spain overall tbh. Probably some team would want him, like...
I mean he'd get torn to shreds against Barcelona, but at least they'll look pretty doing so and will learn more than they would if they lose 1:0...
Kendall's Dream
Player Valuation: £10m
Can't argue with you on most parts but that Villa game was abit different in my eyes. I went myself and although we conceded (Oviedo? injured, cross came from that side) we didn't deserve to concede (or to put it better, Villa didn't deserve to score). And when they did, they had one extra chance after that and that was it. We looked like we could score at any point in that game, just took the foot off the gas at 0-3.
If we get the cup, I think he deserves at least till January. Just to see how the summer goes under Moshiri and the 'attraction' of Europa. If we get beat in the semi, as much as I do like him and want him to do well, I'll become Martinez out.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
You've just written 3 beautifully worded paragraphs explaining your views brilliantly, and then I read this out of nowhere not expecting it coming....based on the rest of your post.
Why still on the fence in the poll?
Yorkie
Player Valuation: £35m
We are so soft under the apparent pressure of being ahead.
Imagine if we score first at Wembley, can you genuinely see the team as it is now standing a decent chance of guarding that advantage?
for me gone at the end of the season.
League position shows how consistently you can win across the course of a season. Bottom half, let alone nearly bottom quarter, is appalling with the talent we have.
I remember that game when they scored one back and I thought "aah ****, here it comes"
I've been on the out side for a while tbh. Only at the end of the season with a favourable alternative though.
Imagine if we score first at Wembley, can you genuinely see the team as it is now standing a decent chance of guarding that advantage?
for me gone at the end of the season.
League position shows how consistently you can win across the course of a season. Bottom half, let alone nearly bottom quarter, is appalling with the talent we have.
really well put mate. I agree. I don't dislike Martinez as a person either (quite like him actually) but my confidence in him as manager is incredibly low.
I remember that game when they scored one back and I thought "aah ****, here it comes"
I've been on the out side for a while tbh. Only at the end of the season with a favourable alternative though.
I was talking to a few kopites today and their view is that they want us to win the cup so we are stuck with Martinez for another year! They are loving it like we loved brenda. Moshiri needs to sack Martinez now and let these players play, they are more than capable of beating some of these teams but are restricted by this flawed philosophy of passing it from the back that Martinez has imposed on them.
Martinez has devalued this team massively under his tenure he needs sacking asap
Martinez has devalued this team massively under his tenure he needs sacking asap
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
Last on MOTD again, the shame.
Sentinel
Player Valuation: £8m
He's Kenwright's man, the answer to why he is still employed. And the gamble that they both have in the FA Cup. They're intertwined for all intents and purposes.
Hopefully we will see changes in the summer, with a new era or if you're old enough, a return to were we stand historically as a club.
Someone said that earlier and it's really true - he can probably charm a snake if he tried... but he's not a good manager.
He comes across as a bit arrogant in his self-belief, which wouldn't be that bad as most managers have that trait, except they're proven winners - Mourinho, Pep, etc. so I doubt he'll actually quit on his own.
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