Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
This a million times!
Its ludicrous how much the players have been let off the hook this season. By and large they have been a disgrace.
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This a million times!
Its ludicrous how much the players have been let off the hook this season. By and large they have been a disgrace.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
He had a very imposing game. However his leadership qualities are dreadful.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Past 2 seasons he has been way off his best and quite rightly lost his position to oviedo.
Total mess defensively on the left with his wandering.
Think he has spoken out as he knows he will be losing his place again and also has been dropped from the england squad.
Play better and keep your mouth shut...if he wasnt local and a long term player he would be getting loads of stick.
orchard
Player Valuation: £60m
We all know he's not an ideal skipper Zat, but stop throwing him under the Bus because it's a defence to your agenda. At least subject Martinez to the same level of managerial/leadership scrutiny.
toffee matt
Player Valuation: £60m
Explains why Barkley never gets stick doesn't it...
It will all come out...eventually, it always does.
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
No smoke without fire... i defo believe there is words going on behind the scenes, lots of unhappy faces and body language at the moment.
Not necessarily the right thread but found this on twitter and should be pinned up in the player's dressing room:
TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
Well he's been injured for a ton of it. And, let's face it, he'd not been helped by the refusal to have a winger share some sort of the duties.
It's constantly said that Martinez's system is to have his fullbacks bomb on down the flank. And yet, for the last two years, Baines has always had players in front of him either tuck inside or want from their position leaving him absolutely exposed.
toffee matt
Player Valuation: £60m
Not necessarily the right thread but found this on twitter and should be pinned up in the player's dressing room:
Very crindgworthy
Haha Baines tells the truth and this a response you get unbelievable.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
And yet when Oviedo plays we concede more goals per game than when Baines starts and oviedo also creates less going forwards than Baines - care to explain why Oviedo should be playing?
As above when he plays we concede less goals per game than when oviedo plays, and considerably less than when Galloway plays left back, by wandering - you mean the fact he follows the managers instructions about pushing high up the pitch - which if you knew anything about us you'd know is a clear instruction and how Martinez plays with the fullbacks - the centre backs are supposed to spread wide and cover that space down the side - with Barry dropping in - else Barry is meant to drop into that spot to cover himself
on top of that - you do realise that we play one player - the fullback on the left and no one ahead of them mate - so who is responsible for leaving our left back 1 v 2 throughout most of the game?
yes he will likely lose his place - he has spoken up against whats going on - and Martinez has shown that anyone who doesn't blindly follow his phillosophy is ostracised, as for being dropped - as i said earlier the defensive record is better when he plays than when the other fullbacks play, he creates more as well, so dropping him would only illustrate that it is not for footballing reasons and would make Martinez look very petty wouldn't it?
He is local, he is long term, and hearing him saying what we can all see is refreshing, particularly love the part that he praises the fans and say that they deserve better, makes a change to see them being praised after they have been blamed routinely by the manager lately for ourt failings
Baines will go down as one of the best Everton players i have ever seen, someone who stayed loyal to the club when bigger clubs came knocking, Martinez will be some little footnote right above Walter Smith and Mike Walkers entry on the list of crap everton managers
Here's the thing: he IS a local AND a VERY well respected long-term player. It's not even the comments itself he made, it's that HE made them. He very rarely speaks about the club in anything but glowing terms. Do you not think that maybe he could be saying them because he is an Evertonian and (this is my hypothesis/conjecture) thinks that maybe the team is in trouble with the 'tactics' Martinez employs?
Lol, no. I highly doubt Baines would speak out against the manager because he's worried about his spot. Baines is one of the most quiet players on the squad, and I think his words carry more weight.
Don't shut up Baines, I hope him and Jags are just the first of many to speak out against RM.
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