Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Toffeelover]

how successful he's been in the transfer market thus far,

No doubt there have been some good signings but on balance there have been some that have no proven to be worthwhile. Not going into naming them , you know which players.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

So Dave percjance things do not work out and RM leaves, are you going to follow him to his new club thus showing loyalty to RM?

I just hope Martinez shows us loyalty when Barcelona come in for him.

 

[mkrudden]

That twenty million could buy a player who is better than cleverley on the left and could help us win more games.

Or sign a goalkeeper who has 10 plus years at the club and is worth 10-15 more points a season.

Would rather have the trophy

 

[Toffeelover]

I get it: any time we see out a game with ease or end a game on the front foot it's because other stuff intervened; any time we've struggled is solely down to us. Uncanny that isn't it?




Martinez has resurrected a football club from the ashes with sheer force of will down at Swansea; he led a team from a one horse town to the biggest domestic cup in world football against the most expensively assembled squad in the world; then he reconfigured Moyes' team and led them in a new direction to achieve the club's best PL performance. Do yourself a favour mate - try and take the edge off your obvious hatred for this manager and look for a little balance.

As for Jagileka: yes, at least we're on agreement there - that he's turd as a leader of this team.

Also took that same club into relegation with failing league performances year on year. If facts are going to be related or even opinions there should be balance.

 

[ianefc]

 

[Toffeelover]

Even if he ultimately relegates us, Martinez will still be seen by some as Everton's greatest PL manager...or have you forgotten '72 points'.?

Mate it was a tongue in cheek response to Ashtonian's post.

Of course I think you are also practising your reverse sense of humour.

 

[mkrudden]

Haha! For making probably 30mil of profit?!

Yes. Blame lies solely with him.

 

[ianefc]

Haha! For making probably 30mil of profit?!

Yes. Blame lies solely with him.

I'm no accountant or bank manager therefore 30 mil profit on a irreplaceable (unless you could suggest another) means nothing to me.

 

[kiss the crest]

It is ok bringing these so called quality players into the squad, it's what you do with them when playing that counts i.e. Results!

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Haha! For making probably 30mil of profit?!

Yes. Blame lies solely with him.

And leaving us without probably Europe's most sought after u23 striker, easily capable of 20+ per season? Rather the goals in the bag than the dough on the table (That we're not as desperate for, now)

 

[mkrudden]

I'm no accountant or bank manager therefore 30 mil profit on a irreplaceable (unless you could suggest another) means nothing to me.

But you're mystic meg?
There aren't any other strikers out there? None?
Think how many footballers there are.
And there are NONE we could get who'd score 15-20 goals?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It's suited some on here to polarise the debate about Martinez - into some from of choice between the merits of a successful league campaign and winning a cup (which we haven't done yet)

Writing off the second successive poor league campaign as being somehow 'meaningless' in comparison to lifting the FA Cup creates that false narrative.

 

[mkrudden]

And leaving us without probably Europe's most sought after u23 striker, easily capable of 20+ per season? Rather the goals in the bag than the dough on the table (That we're not as desperate for, now)

2 things.

1, but if he wants to leave, let him.

2, so if you aren't bothered by the dough, you're not bothered about where we finish this season provided we win the FA Cup?

 

[ianefc]

But you're mystic meg?
There aren't any other strikers out there? None?
Think how many footballers there are.
And there are NONE we could get who'd score 15-20 goals?

That sort of what I asked.

 

[mkrudden]

That sort of what I asked.

I'd say, on a purely odds/chance basis, there must be a footballer out there who, for 40-60million, would get us 15-20 goals a season.

I'm willing to bet the fiver in my pocket Ian.