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The Esk said:
Except Dave has not fully thought through his objections to expanding the management team to bolster the weaker areas of Martinez' coaching.

The claim that this won't work because Martinez would not accept additional support is baffling. The argument must be that without the additional support his time at Goodison is only going to be as good as his results.

Strengthening the management team not only increases the probability of success but buys Martinez extra time to achieve, particularly with new owners on the horizon.

This is the ultimate win/win scenario. Dave gets to keep Martinez in place at Everton and the rest of us see an increased prospect of Martinez' weaknesses being eradicated through defensive coaching and superior tactics from the expanded coaching team.
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He's corned you too. Nibble on that corn. It so swee.
 
evo1878 said:
So I'm on the 'out' side of the fence but here's the thing part of me says the Spurs fans wanted rid of Pottcetino last season and look what's happened this season given time. Bobby doesn't do it for me. On the one hand it's the best attacking football since 1985 and on the other hand we have no attacking plan B and we're defensively dysfunctional. One thing is for certain. Nothing is gonna change before the end of the season. Is it just that Bobby needs to bring in a stronger defensive coach and change his back room staff. Or do we need a new team like Leicester cos whatever Ranieri is doing he's doing it with the same personnel and the same talented and motivated squad as Pearson finished with. And yet I doubt Pearson would be sitting top of the league right now. So yes maybe the difference we need (and the difference between Bobby and Howard Kendall) is a manager who has won things and who gives this group of clearly talented EFC players the belief (like joe royle in '95) that they can cross the winning line.

Personally - sack Bobby. Bring in Peter Reid with a team of Duncan, Sheeds, Stubbs, Unsworth etc to support
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Really? Maybe we could have Osman, Hibbert, Pistone, Weir aswell to coach our team there amazing skills
 
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The Esk said:
Except Dave has not fully thought through his objections to expanding the management team to bolster the weaker areas of Martinez' coaching.

The claim that this won't work because Martinez would not accept additional support is baffling. The argument must be that without the additional support his time at Goodison is only going to be as good as his results.

Strengthening the management team not only increases the probability of success but buys Martinez extra time to achieve, particularly with new owners on the horizon.

This is the ultimate win/win scenario. Dave gets to keep Martinez in place at Everton and the rest of us see an increased prospect of Martinez' weaknesses being eradicated through defensive coaching and superior tactics from the expanded coaching team.
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I think a lot of us last year thought Xmas was a good time to judge him. Then he gave us more belief and has strung us out until the summer.

If there's not a rapid improvement on the season I will be changing my allegiance for sure.
 
Lanolin said:
This is a key issue for me. It's easy to think that way, but the facts don't back it up. Over the last 18 months there have been numerous times when we've looked like going on a good run, but we never do.

It's all very well saying we conceded in the last minute at Bournemouth, but we scored in the last minute too. The game was a draw, and that's what we deserved.

Same this week, confidence should have been sky high and west broms was rock bottom, but we conspired to lose the game. I think there's more to it than the odd bad result setting them back.
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We scored and conceded in injury time at Chelsea as well.
 

evo1878 said:
So I'm on the 'out' side of the fence but here's the thing part of me says the Spurs fans wanted rid of Pottcetino last season and look what's happened this season given time. Bobby doesn't do it for me. On the one hand it's the best attacking football since 1985 and on the other hand we have no attacking plan B and we're defensively dysfunctional. One thing is for certain. Nothing is gonna change before the end of the season. Is it just that Bobby needs to bring in a stronger defensive coach and change his back room staff. Or do we need a new team like Leicester cos whatever Ranieri is doing he's doing it with the same personnel and the same talented and motivated squad as Pearson finished with. And yet I doubt Pearson would be sitting top of the league right now. So yes maybe the difference we need (and the difference between Bobby and Howard Kendall) is a manager who has won things and who gives this group of clearly talented EFC players the belief (like joe royle in '95) that they can cross the winning line.

Personally - sack Bobby. Bring in Peter Reid with a team of Duncan, Sheeds, Stubbs, Unsworth etc to support
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The only difference being Pochetino turned that around in the same season and finished fifth and then this season overcame what we are told is a terrible handicap of having a young team and is challenging for the title.
 

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