Roberto Martinez discussion

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Darth Vader said:
Can you link a post where someone has said they want Pullis as our manager
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I can from a different time last season yes. Above in this thread people were - as I said - discussing it. His name just won't go away, so it seems he's the type many may have in mind.

Crazy isn't it?

Tsk!
 
davek said:
Well, I said this season if we made 60 points plus a good cup run it'd be a very good effort given the rebuilding and development. We're under shooting that PL total, but I wouldn't see it as a poor season in the context of the good cup runs and the developmental stage these prayers are at. Next season is different. I think four seasons in we should be getting our PL points total into the mid 60s given these players we have.

What's confused the issue entirely is the staggeringly good first season. 72 points is off the charts mad for a first season in charge. Everything Martinez has done since has struggled to get out of the shadow of that season. We won't get anywhere near it next season, but we have to be in the mid 60 points range and qualifying for Europe.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU CANNOT have it both ways. You CANNOT keep on saying how the 72pt mark is the bench-mark for how good he can be then say 'he's struggled to get out fo the shadow of that season'. You have said for ages 'he got us our highest points mark ever, why would you sack him??'. WHy, on FN EARTH, would you now move the goalposts and say that getting BACK to that mark is too much??? ITS THE SAME TEAM FFS!
 
orly said:
But it's not a strong hatred.

It's a view backed up with statistics.

Here's another one for you. Of the eight (sob) league wins from 26 games this season, I think Cleverley has featured in 4 of them - two of them vs Newcastle, the away win at Southampton and the away win at Stoke (happy to be corrected on this one but I think it is right - doesn't feature vs Villa, Sunderland, Chelsea home or West Brom away). He's featured in 15 games.

Tom Cleverley should be nowhere near the Everton match day squad. He's not a solid player, he's not even a decent one.
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Quit trying to turn every thread into a Tom Cleverley thread.

*thread banned for off topic
 
davek said:
Well, I said this season if we made 60 points plus a good cup run it'd be a very good effort given the rebuilding and development. We're under shooting that PL total, but I wouldn't see it as a poor season in the context of the good cup runs and the developmental stage these prayers are at. Next season is different. I think four seasons in we should be getting our PL points total into the mid 60s given these players we have.

What's confused the issue entirely is the staggeringly good first season. 72 points is off the charts mad for a first season in charge. Everything Martinez has done since has struggled to get out of the shadow of that season. We won't get anywhere near it next season, but we have to be in the mid 60 points range and qualifying for Europe.
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AVB got the exact same points total his first season in charge of spurs mate - also was their record points total in the 'prem era' as well, next season whilst in 7th they sacked him for underperforming
 

davek said:
Well, I said this season if we made 60 points plus a good cup run it'd be a very good effort given the rebuilding and development. We're under shooting that PL total, but I wouldn't see it as a poor season in the context of the good cup runs and the developmental stage these prayers are at. Next season is different. I think four seasons in we should be getting our PL points total into the mid 60s given these players we have.

What's confused the issue entirely is the staggeringly good first season. 72 points is off the charts mad for a first season in charge. Everything Martinez has done since has struggled to get out of the shadow of that season. We won't get anywhere near it next season, but we have to be in the mid 60 points range and qualifying for Europe.
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Unfortunately we'll probably loose 2-3 of our "star" players in the summer so next season will be another "development" one in a never ending groundhog day of missed opportunities
 

bluestevon said:
AVB got the exact same points total his first season in charge of spurs mate - also was their record points total in the 'prem era' as well, next season whilst in 7th they sacked him for underperforming
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was that after spending 100 million ? just curious
 
As for the manager we should have gotten - Tuschel, said so when we where looking for one after Moyes left - and the work he's done at Dortmund/Mainz suggests he would have been a very good appointment, but that boats sailed now like
 

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