Roberto Martinez discussion

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Dario Terracotta said:
He was on the pitch yesterday,Shawcross,just what we need IMHO,"if" we were to change how we play at the back,a problem we have at the back trying to play our way out of trouble is that only Stones is comfortable doing it(and he had the proverbial nightmare yesterday)everyone else we have barring possibly Baines look like rabbits caught in headlights being asked to play this way,its almost as if they will be fined if they punt a clearance into the stands!Shawcross would struggle coming here the way we play too,Martinez has got to sort this out and become more "old school" at the back.
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Totally agree, we need a physically intimidating CB if he can play a bit that would be a big bonus.A Dave Watson type would do me,but doubt RM would buy one,or if he did never play him.
 
Makes you wonder if Distin and Eto'o both saw the road we were heading down under Martinez, add in Mirallas aswell it's not often a manager falls out with 3+ players in the space of 1 calender year unless their are problems behind closed doors.

Lukaku's face yesterday said It all when Stoke scored I wouldn't be suprised if he tells the manager to do one soon aswell.
 
Zatara said:
Robles
Kone
McGeady

All poor signings. But could he sign first eleven players with the money--unlikely and a gamble.

Hes been stuck with
Howard
Hibbert
Oviedo
Osman
Pienaar
Gibson
Etc etc

No one in their right mind would buy them.
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Zatty you little rent boy renter, Norwich offered £8m for Naismith in the summer. McGeady had the chance to join Sunderland.

The sole away victory for Martinez against a 'big' side came from Oviedo. He's sound.

You've also left the £9.5m we spent on Funes Mori off your list, you little rascal.

Imagine if a new boss started now. How much would he get for Cleverley? Or Kone? He wouldn't get the £9.5m back for Funes the Flop unless he'd kept the receipt. How's abar that for inheriting a squad?
 

So all those players signed by Moyes and left for Martinez .. Moyes didnt play them?!?! Thats not true.

Moyes nutured Barkley ??? Thats a first. You can bet he wouldnt have played Stones as often as Martinez has either

I have nothing against Moyes, the fact is that he left an ageing, injury prone and unbalanced team for Martinez.

Martinez has been gradually improving it each season. Its so obvious.

Saint Domingo said:
He never played a lot of the dross you mentioned in your list either. Let's not move the goalposts, you want to discuss the squad as a whole, they're a part of it. Must be such a wrench for the Moyes haters that the old hoof ball dinosaur nurtured Barkley, signed Stones, and created the best modern full back pairing in the prem. Just doesn't fit the agenda does it, bummer.
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Zatara said:
So all those players signed by Moyes and left for Martinez .. Moyes didnt play them?!?! Thats not true.

Moyes nutured Barkley ??? Thats a first. You can bet he wouldnt have played Stones as often as Martinez has either

I have nothing against Moyes, the fact is that he left an ageing, injury prone and unbalanced team for Martinez.

Martinez has been gradually improving it each season. Its so obvious.
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Except, you know, that key bit about actually improving the results.

I have nothing against Moyes, the fact is that he left an ageing, injury prone and unbalanced team for Martinez.
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Not a fact, as you've already been shown.
 
Ok i can see youre just being a WUM.

£8mil on last day of window publically Martinez said he would have gone but no time for a replacement.

McGeady turned the move down.

Oviedo is perma crocked.

Mori is adapting to the league, any comments on him are just nonsense posts from someone with an agenda.

Cleverley would fetch millions.

Typical WUM and reported for saying im a "rent boy renter" as well as other posts.

You and @daz4matty are basically just lying to suit an agenda.

WUMs.


orly said:
Zatty you little rent boy renter, Norwich offered £8m for Naismith in the summer. McGeady had the chance to join Sunderland.

The sole away victory for Martinez against a 'big' side came from Oviedo. He's sound.

You've also left the £9.5m we spent on Funes Mori off your list, you little rascal.

Imagine if a new boss started now. How much would he get for Cleverley? Or Kone? He wouldn't get the £9.5m back for Funes the Flop unless he'd kept the receipt. How's abar that for inheriting a squad?
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The issue for me is would you trust him spending the Lukaku/Stones money next summer? I honestly believe the club needs to decide now if he's gonna be here for the long term or if it's worth taking a gamble on someone else if they think he'll not improve on his defensive organisation.

For me any new owner will have to make that decision rather quickly if the takeover happens next month.
 
Zatara said:
Ok i can see youre just being a WUM.

£8mil on last day of window publically Martinez said he would have gone but no time for a replacement.

McGeady turned the move down.

Oviedo is perma crocked.

Mori is adapting to the league, any comments on him are just nonsense posts from someone with an agenda.

Cleverley would fetch millions.

Typical WUM and reported for saying im a "rent boy renter" as well as other posts.

You and @daz4matty are basically just lying to suit an agenda.

WUMs.
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You've been savaged here Zatmeister and no mistake.

That's the post of a meltdown.

Stick to facts. Facts are better. Facts will help stop you telling porkies in the Ale House forum.
 

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