Roberto Martinez discussion

Aar_the_Toffees · December 28, 2015

Lucien Favre.

Blue Cheese · December 28, 2015

Ihaters · December 28, 2015

Nashtbs said:
Utter fraud. It's turning out his first season is the fluke.

I see people defending Martinez, saying he's going about it the right way, he's bringing a young team, imprinting his ideas throughout the club and all that other bull.

The man can't organise a defense, he maintains on playing a complete liability week in week out. Do you think we're going to keep the quite obvious talent we've got whilst we continue to toil around mid table? Absoloutely not.

We've gone backwards since Moyes. I'd hope he'd build on Moyes' strengths and take us forward. He hasn't done that.

I don't understand, in what way is he fraud mate?

suey_11 · December 28, 2015

Aar_the_Toffees said:
It's weird how for some reason unknown to me, no matter how much I want to sack him, I believe that he is building something special and will turn it around. Bad result today. Let's focus on Spurs now.

We have been saying that too often recently I'd love him to turn it around but I don't think it's going to happen.

daz4matty · December 28, 2015

Aar_the_Toffees said:
It's weird how for some reason unknown to me, no matter how much I want to sack him, I believe that he is building something special and will turn it around. Bad result today. Let's focus on Spurs now.

He never changes things when they are crying out to be changed.
Shutting your eyes management only takes you so far

Greek Fisherman · December 28, 2015

chicoazul said:
That just confirms further what a weird little man you are.

And how clueless you are...

chicoazul · December 28, 2015

Allezfan said:
All 8 of them?

Yes there's eight of them. Read his original post you whelk and work it out.

paulbefc · December 28, 2015

Toffeelover said:
I understand what you are saying and agree to a large extent. However Jags and Baines are getting on and the time will come for them to be replaced but who with new signings or bring up the likes of Galloway who is repeatedly played out of position. I know I will get shot down for this but I was against Garbutt going out on loan,

I'm not following what you mean in this post after the first sentence.

sageyefc · December 28, 2015

**Loud Noises***

orly · December 28, 2015

daz4matty said:
He never changes things when they are crying out to be changed.
Shutting your eyes management only takes you so far

Nah he does mate

Surely you can see that game was crying out for Steven Naismith to come on.

Toffeelover · December 28, 2015

dannyboy said:
I like Garbutt but I don't think he'd offer much in terms of defending which is what this team desperately needs right now.

We will never know but he is a LB which Galloway is not.

chicoazul · December 28, 2015

Greek Fisherman said:
And how clueless you are...

You've got a history for being clueless on here you impotent flute. Don't make me vault you bra.

II McColl II · December 28, 2015

The 1st season wasn't a fluke it was just a perfect hybrid of keeping the moyes fundamentals and adding the martinez attacking system, these days we just have an attacking system which has no defensive fundamentals because martinez like as a player is only capable at a sub par level not a top level defensive minded player or coach.

Guardiola is a great example of this but in the opposite direction, he knew how to set up a team to defend, press and keep the ball possession (which is why alot of good managers originate from a defensive playing background) but was incapable of telling world class players how to attack so gave them the final third of the pitch to do what they wanted.

When a coach is this naive at setting up a defensive system he doesn't belong at this level and that was shown with wigan going down, we will continue to be a 9-14 position team with a squad capable of top 6 under the right management.