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It's easy to come out and start screaming for Martinez to be sacked, but a genuine question, who could we feasibly get in who could do a better job, and why would they do a better job?
By god I'm blue
Banned at own request
Not quite sure what you are doing to be honest.
I'm judging him purely on results.
I wanted him when we went in for him. He won a trophy with Wigan, so for me was worth a go. Looked like he was going to be proper but that is a distant memory now.
18 months of poor results. If you are happy with that and think it is knee jerk, then you ain't paying much attention to the league table.
Or ask Kendall.
I know that, but I don't see how winning a few one off games changes the game for Martinez. This isn't 1995 - we're not supposed to be a terrible side who sit bottom half but somehow get a cup win.
toffee matt
Player Valuation: £60m
I don't think our issues at the back are as simple as hiring a coach.
Theirs something fudemently wrong in the way the team is set up
Theirs something fudemently wrong in the way the team is set up
flibbyflob
Player Valuation: £40m
January window.
Gone in summer if it doesn't improve in the 2nd half of the season. Can't say he wasn't given time then.
Darth Vader
Player Valuation: £25m
Stoke had only scored 16 goals until today
Here you go lads have 4
Here you go lads have 4
.....arghh - beat me to it swine
Michaelcoyb
Transfer Window Time Keeper
We have been doing this sort of crap forever. But apparently it is Martinez' fault.
If you want consistency you are following the wrong club.
If you want consistency you are following the wrong club.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Or just out of this league, depends how we do without the leagues top scorer I guess.
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
You're right on that, but the problem is that we could just as easily have won 4-3 and I would still be pissed off that there is no consistency, solidity or certainty about our play.
We're not well organised, we don't close out games, we don't play in the manner needed to secure results. These are traits which only the manager can bear responsibility for.
Geordies are a load of self entitled fat beauts who go the game with an over inflated sense of self entitlement and thanks to be pressure they've put on their managers they've become tosh for a long, long time.
They also think they can transfer win the league with FIFA players.
Basically 80% of anyone who posts in here after a defeat.
Chang Elephant
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I just think that results and points are sometimes given too much priority and thus I laugh at everyone on this forum
LAToffee
Player Valuation: £20m
Have never called for Martinez to be fired. Here is where I'm at. There needs to be a structural change in terms of defense. I'd prefer a reshuffle of the coaching staff ala Arsenal a number of years ago. I'd even settle for the January purchase of a new goalie or no nonsense defender. But for those wanting him sacked: who is the safe pair of hands that will build on the real attacking progress that we've enjoyed? We are not in danger of relegation (which was the case last season). I am raging at that shambles but I would keep him til the summer. Replacing him now could lead to a tailspin. Assess in the summer and change regime if needed deliberately. Sacking him because of defeat coming off a victory is asking for trouble while hoping for miracles.
Loads are having a go at clattenburg and he did have a dire game, though personally I think it was a penalty at the end, but you can't ignore our defensive problems entirely and just blame the ref. We're not as good as we should be. We'll be 11th tonight despite having one of the best attacks in the league.
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