Roberto Martinez discussion

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Do you have any reason to despise him so much or are you just a bit weird? All you've done is slate him.

22 goals in 16 games.

Or, counting for clean sheets, 22 goals in 13 games, since this disaster has made his debut.

Those are the facts.
 

Did you not watch the game? Aside from two stupid pens we gifted them and a freak bounce that should have been called handball anyway, did they look like creating anything. They're a counterattack team that don't even defend particularly well, and were there for the taking. We won that game for them as far as I'm concerned.

I did mate and I agree. But they restricted our chances aswell and I'm sure they'd argue that we got the luck of the bounce for our 2 goals.
 

Under Moyes we achieved these positions a few times but it was really only when we started playing in the new year. We usually achieved them positions with good runs after poor starts. What I am saying is we were out of any running for the top 4 by November, December each season rather than failing in the last half dozen games or so barring that one season early in his tenure. Our approach and ambition is now to get in the top 4 but at the moment we are a little short but at least we are attempting.

I understand your point but that was a Moyes's team though.

We were never in the top 4 running. Too much of a gap (points). Maybe top 6 if we are turning it around now.
 
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For the fourth game in a row, I feel totally frustrated with this Everton team and the manager. I really don't get this attitude that we are playing dazzling football and are having no luck/have a crap keeper/are building a team for the future. We are where we deserve to be in the league. In the Capital One Cup we have beaten three lower league teams and gone through on penalties against a poor Premier League side.
The manager has to take responsibility for getting us up the table by winning some games sometime soon. He can't seem to set up a balanced team, motivate his players or manage a game through tactical or personnel changes during the course of a game.
Much to early to talk about sacking, but he has to improve by the end of the season or be prepared to explain himself at that point.
Sad, because I really like him.
 

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