Roberto Martinez discussion

[zirc]

Ultimately yes, can't argue. It's whether you can see the bigger picture. I would personally like to see how things pan out. I feel excited by this side; We don't have this kind of squad very often. I'm genuinely excited, been through enough shiz maybe we are due a run.

Maybe I'm just blind but I do see potential and I haven't said that for a long time.

I agree with you and there is massive potential. I back Martinez, but he's already been allowed his one awful year, at the end of this season if we finish closer to 14/15 than 13/14 we need to start considering a replacement. This is the man that promised to deliver champions league football and yet we seem to be going backwards, being passed up by teams like stoke, palace, liverpool, west ham etc.

 

[davek]

We're 17 games in. It's literally impossible to have achieved anything at this stage of the season. I'm going to ride it out, see how we're doing at the end.

We should have won the LC by now mate. It's no excuse to say the semi finals haven't been played yet. A good manager, with these players, would have advanced to the final and won that trophy this season already.

 

[Fearthainn]

We're 17 games in. It's literally impossible to have achieved anything at this stage of the season. I'm going to ride it out, see how we're doing at the end.

That's what many of us like myself said last season though, and look how that turned out. I am reduced to hoping for league cup glory when the odds are stacked against me. It was the Europa League last year. But I suppose changing managers at this point won't achieve much as realistically we won't get even 5th place. The summer is critical though.

 

[zirc]

He's sorted out defending corners, just need to work out how to defend penalties now.

They had like 1 corner all match

 

[Fearthainn]

We should have won the LC by now mate. It's no excuse to say the semi finals haven't been played yet. A good manager, with these players, would have advanced to the final and won that trophy this season already.

Davek I like you but give it up mate. You're someone who likes arguing more than you like Everton.

 

[ianefc]

TBF, I could see why a man who actively endorsed Steve McLaren for the Everton job might be a tad sensitive to vaulting. Please carry on talking about managers Ian, it's v clear you know your stuff!

Again that has what to do with Martinez
Knew I'd get a bite 17 in 55 LOL

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Again that has what to do with Martinez

Think it just representative of the calibre of manager you'd be happy with Ian.

Sad really when you claim to be the champion of ambition.

 

[ianefc]

We should have won the LC by now mate. It's no excuse to say the semi finals haven't been played yet. A good manager, with these players, would have advanced to the final and won that trophy this season already.

The cringiest type if nothing post out there, riddled with sarcasm and an expectancy that no one has put up on the team to prove why 5 wins in 17 was expected/acceptable

Last resorts from the those that slip

Laughable

Expecially from those that would have used today's 'individual' result to prove Maryibez is doing well whilst dismissing the past 18 months.

 

[fozzy]

Zippo confidence in the goalie.

Breeds unease. You could have put average/decent defenders in front of Shilton or Schmeical, (probably did in hindsight), and the unit becomes nearly impregnable.

Same, you can put excellent defenders in front of a fading keeper, and that is what we see.

Don't agree at all!

Its defensive know how a working as a unit that gets you clean sheets not a keeper that's good at crosses.

Seaman was one of the worst at crosses I've ever seen. And he won nothing didn't he?

James was a lot less than average and he didn't win anything either did he?

Ect....

Oh and shilton and schiechel having average defenders in front of them when successful just lol.

 

[maccavennie]

We should have won the LC by now mate. It's no excuse to say the semi finals haven't been played yet. A good manager, with these players, would have advanced to the final and won that trophy this season already.

Damn right Dave about time you changed your tune......oh wait sorry mate

Just so you know mate I've decided if we do win the cup it's all because of Robles as well.

Nil Satis Nisi Robles

 

[zirc]

So beatable they've only lost 1 this season

Did you not watch the game? Aside from two stupid pens we gifted them and a freak bounce that should have been called handball anyway, did they look like creating anything. They're a counterattack team that don't even defend particularly well, and were there for the taking. We won that game for them as far as I'm concerned.

 

[deipnosophist]

Just seen his post match interview. Listen, I'm no HR guru, but I've run a company with over 600 employees...RM doesn't know what's going on. In fairness, when the SHTF, 99% of people don't know what to do. The 1% make great mangers...RM isn't one. Sorry @davek, he's a good bloke and will get better with experience...but football managerial greatness isn't in his DNA. And that's ok, as long as we all accept that. But the sycophants can defo do one and stop polarising RM discussion between messiah vs plotters...

 

[davek]

Davek I like you but give it up mate. You're someone who likes arguing more than you like Everton.

That's as far away from the truth as is possible to get.

The people questioning this manager need their heads feeling and I dont think it's unfair to point it out.

 

[roydo]

a unit that gets you clean sheets not a keeper that's good at crosses.

Quite. The unit. And one key component of said unit aint doing that great.

 

[daz4matty]

That's as far away from the truth as is possible to get.

The people questioning this manager need their heads feeling and I dont think it's unfair to point it out.

The people who shut their eyes and think he is the messiah need their bumps feeling as well.