The End of Season Martinez Poll

Woolly Blue · May 27, 2015

mythbuster said:
Nope. At this moment in time, he's got his contract as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, my opinion might change, depending on how we are doing. But putting a time limit on his tenure is the DAFT thing. What if we're boss until January and then have a newcastle type January - May? Where does that leave the 'he's got until xmas' clowns then?

Like I say, he's got my full backing. He should either be sacked now, or deemed to be here until his contract expires. There's no in betweens.

Read the poll mate.

Both the Christmas and Full Season options include the words "at least", which basically means they're good times to review progress.

mythbuster · May 27, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
Calls people clowns then basically wears a red nose and out clowns even the clowns.

Theres a lot of inbetween, the people who say give him till christmas are waiting to see if theres a change in his tactics, his team selection, his utter bile talking bullcrap. You on the other hand are suggesting we retain him as Manager for the next 4 years, no matter what.

Coco approves of this stance.

Nope, like I said, my opinion might change and if it does, it will be a case of get rid now. I haven't had enough of him yet, so I'm putting my faith in him.

Khalekan · May 27, 2015

mythbuster said:
Nope. At this moment in time, he's got his contract as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, my opinion might change, depending on how we are doing. But putting a time limit on his tenure is the DAFT thing. What if we're boss until January and then have a newcastle type January - May? Where does that leave the 'he's got until xmas' clowns then?

Like I say, he's got my full backing. He should either be sacked now, or deemed to be here until his contract expires. There's no in betweens.

But there are "in betweens".

And you outlined them perfectly in the second last sentence of your first paragraph.

Goat · May 27, 2015

mythbuster said:
Nope, like I said, my opinion might change and if it does, it will be a case of get rid now. I haven't had enough of him yet, so I'm putting my faith in him.

And you think the people who voted till Christmas will just make a decision at Christmas and stick with it?

Goat · May 27, 2015

And for the record, you just called 43.9% of this forum clowns.

Thats not even close to being true.

mythbuster · May 27, 2015

Khalekan said:
But there are "in betweens".

And you outlined them perfectly in the second last sentence of your first paragraph.

well, imo, there's not. I've got faith in him being the man to take us forward, so obviously, I want him here long term.

Carlito · May 27, 2015

Nashtbs said:
1 position below me, does that make you or me the bigger loser? I'm not quite sure.

You'd have to ask the man himself.

I don't really mind as long as I win the passing.

mythbuster · May 27, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
And you think the people who voted till Christmas will just make a decision at Christmas and stick with it?

Look he's our manager. As far as I'm concerned, you either want him here, or you don't. Everybody is entitled to an opinion. There will be no knee-jerking from me. I supported Moyes 100% (as you did) and Martinez is getting my full backing. IF the day does come when I've had enough/don't think he can take us forward, then my support for him will disappear.

sageyefc · May 27, 2015

Woolly Blue said:
A big name manager would be nice, but we don't "need" one. What we need is an up and coming manager with something to prove. 12 months ago, I thought Martinez fitted that description nicely. Now, I'm nowhere near convinced that he's as good as I thought he was.

So another unproven manager, bit risky that. Very rare they actually work. Then what in 12 months time when your not that convinced hes that good, try someone new?

See the pattern you could get into, very costly too considering we're already skint before contract buyouts and pay offs.

Goat · May 27, 2015

mythbuster said:
Look he's our manager. As far as I'm concerned, you either want him here, or you don't. Everybody is entitled to an opinion. There will be no knee-jerking from me. I supported Moyes 100% (as you did) and Martinez is getting my full backing. IF the day does come when I've had enough/don't think he can take us forward, then my support for him will disappear.

We only have 2 seasons to judge him by.

Im pretty sure after Moyes first 2 Seasons you werent sure what to think.

davek · May 27, 2015

Woolly Blue said:
For what it's worth, I think the folk who voted to let him see his contract out ( till the end of 2018/19 ) , regardless of what happens over the next few seasons are either WUMs, daft or both.

I'm defo not a WUM. Erm...hold on.... :oops:

Goat · May 27, 2015

davek said:
I'm defo not a WUM. Erm...hold on....

Leave this thread David, now.

mythbuster · May 27, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
We only have 2 seasons to judge him by.

Im pretty sure after Moyes first 2 Seasons you werent sure what to think.

Yes, my faith may be misplaced, I've acknowledged that my opinion might change.

I'll be gutted if I do have to change my opinion though, as that means we'll be doing crap. Which none of us want to see.

davek · May 27, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
Leave this thread David, now.

Sick of this bullying. Me nerves are shattered with this.

Goat · May 27, 2015

mythbuster said:
Yes, my faith may be misplaced, I've acknowledged that my opinion might change.

I'll be gutted if I do have to change my opinion though, as that means we'll be doing crap. Which none of us want to see.

Im sure some have some wonderful agendas and would prefer us to crash and burn to justify everything they have said.

I personally enjoyed the humble pie I had to eat in his first season, it tasted lovely.