I just can't see us winning at Stoke and that is the first time I've said that in ages. It used to be expected three points in every game apart from the away ones v top sides were maybe you hoped for a draw (and back then we were complaining about that mindset!). Now I'm only confident of a draw at best in every game apart from home ones v the worst sides in the league and even then as WBA, Hull and Leicester show, even that shouldn't be expected. Would take a point from Stoke and that hurts to say. They're a lot better than us. Martinez has ripped away all of the standards, aura, and fear this Everton side used to have. We were regarded as one of the most difficult grounds to play at and part of a group of 7 who were almost in a different league to the rest of the prem. Martinez has cast us back even worse than the also rans now in one season. Cannot wait until he is out. Every weekend this season has been miserable.