Owen

[davek]

Nothing sinister mate, just that you wont allow wiggle room for the manager or the club to change their mind from what are quotes attributed to the player and manager.

Whats your opinion on keeping a contracted player who asks for the possibility to leave?

In that eventuality, and he was a key player, I'd tell him to fcuk off and get his head down as it's only been 3 months since he expressed unswerving loyalty. So, you see, it really is up to the club and the buck stops at the club's door.

 

[kenada_blue]

In that eventuality, and he was a key player, I'd tell him to fcuk off and get his head down as it's only been 3 months since he expressed unswerving loyalty. So, you see, it really is up to the club and the buck stops at the club's door.

Give him a slap while youre there too, hey Dave?

 

[davek]

Give him a slap while youre there too, hey Dave?

Not required. Just do what O'Neill did.

Barry: "I'd like to play Champions League football at Liverpool"

O'Neill: "I'd like you to carry on playing for Aston Villa and we hold your contract"

Barry: "Err...."

O'Neill: "No problem. Get changed and start training".

Issue resolved.



The tortuous route some are taking to try and pin this probable move on the player is as ridiculous as it is embarrassing.

 

[Azzbot]

I think we are to nice to be honest.

 

[Neiler]

In that eventuality, and he was a key player, I'd tell him to fcuk off and get his head down as it's only been 3 months since he expressed unswerving loyalty. So, you see, it really is up to the club and the buck stops at the club's door.

What if said player looses his motivation, willingness and performs at a mere 90% and just goes through the motions.

Sulks around the club and dilutes an exceptional team spirt and as result a link in the chail breaks and the team do not perform at the optimum.

This behavious also has a negative effect on the talented youth players coming into the team and llok to senior pros as role models to learn from.

What if it is the players intention subsiquently due to his frustration and anger, to force a move by purposefull exhibiting behaviour to the detrimental effect on the team and the squad.

What if said behaiviour leads the club to sell said unhappy player eventually at a reduced cost, to what was origanally offered due to making a player stay even though his heart (a value the clubs performences are built around) hasnt been in it.

At the end of the day it may legally be the clubs decision but in reality its the dynamices and potenial fall out for the club overall good that comes into decision making.

Im sure this is not what could happen in Lescotts case, but i would say it happens possibility for a lot of clubs (maybe Blackburn Rovers, West Ham and Aston Villa) in why they may agree or more likely be forced into agreeing to sell players.

 

[kenada_blue]

Not required. Just do what O'Neill did.

Barry: "I'd like to play Champions League football at Liverpool"

O'Neill: "I'd like you to carry on playing for Aston Villa and we hold your contract"

Barry: "Err...."

O'Neill: "No problem. Get changed and start training".

Issue resolved.



The tortuous route some are taking to try and pin this probable move on the player is as ridiculous as it is embarrassing.

I've been playing that card for months mate.

The worst thing is, Barry had 12months left on his contract...nothing in todays terms, and Barry's agent openly turned around and said if his client doesnt get Champions League footy this season (he should've said £100k a week will do also) he's gone.

So the player mentioned ie Lescott, with his £40k and week and 4 years still left on his, means we should tell em to eff off. But no, apparantly we're not as ambitious as Citeh, so £80k a week will do.


On topic -

I'd have Owen though.....Im pretty sure we'd get him too being that they're some shiite teams after him.

 

[davek]

What if said player looses his motivation, willingness and performs at a mere 90% and just goes through the motions.

Sulks around the club and dilutes an exceptional team spirt and as result a link in the chail breaks and the team do not perform at the optimum.

This behavious also has a negative effect on the talented youth players coming into the team and llok to senior pros as role models to learn from.

What if it is the players intention subsiquently due to his frustration and anger, to force a move by purposefull exxhibiting to the detrimental effect his behaviour could have on the team and the squad.

What if said behaiviour leaves the club to sell said unhappy player eventually at a reduced cost, to what was origanally offered due to making a player stay even though his heart (a value the clubs performences are built around) hasnt been in it.

I thought you dealt in FACTS!

Did that happen with Barry at Villa? Let's keep with what we know.

At the end of the day it may legally be the clubs decision but in reality its only samantics the dynamices and potenial fall out for the club overall guide decision making.
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It's not really just semantics. Ask Martin O'Neill.

 

[Neiler]

I thought you dealt in FACTS!

Did that happen with Barry at Villa? Let's keep with what we know.



It's not really just semantics. Ask Martin O'Neill.

I am! Lescott wants to stay rememeber!

Was thinking more of Ronaldo, but yeah id agree with you on Barry too!

I guess you could make a case for Bellamy and Santa Cruz too.

 

[ohevertonohweloveverton]

Looking forward to seeing Michael in the royal blue of Everton Football Club tbh.

 

[Bundy]

as long as he doesn't charge 1.5 mil per goal that's all.

 

[kenada_blue]

I am! Lescott wants to stay rememeber!

Was thinking more of Ronaldo, but yeah id agree with you on Barry too!

I guess you could make a case for Bellamy and Santa Cruz too.

Balls to Ronaldo, he let everything get to his head and always wanted to play for Real...he still was second highest goal scorer last season.

 

[Azzbot]

I can understand why Ronaldo wanted to go aswell.

Ah well.

 

[TX Bill]

In regards to Owen, I'd really only want him if we got him on a pay as you play deal.

Sure, we'll give you 20k a week provided you play.

 

[kenada_blue]

In regards to Owen, I'd really only want him if we got him on a pay as you play deal.

Sure, we'll give you 20k a week provided you play.

I think he's got to take what he's given being that Stoke and Hull are the only 2 teams who are going after him (officially).

The days of him being on 50k + are long gone.

 

[lordyefc]

In regards to Owen, I'd really only want him if we got him on a pay as you play deal.

Sure, we'll give you 20k a week provided you play.

If he's medical reports are true, we'd be able to get insurance on him - so essentially, he'd be on pay as you play from our point of view (from his point of view, he'd just get the money).

Saha was only an issue because nobody would insure him.