Roberto Martinez discussion

[toffee matt]

But don't you find it odd that Gibson has played more football for his national side than his club. And that Pienaar plays a 90 in Europa league then is on the medical bed straight after.

Just doesn't make sense to me

Think they're probably going to be moved on soon personally

 

[Allezfan]

Even when half the first choice eleven is missing through injury & suspension?

Southampton managed to cope with that.

 

[cronullasharks]

Even when half the first choice eleven is missing through injury & suspension?

Yes

 

[Mozza1987]

Its also the football way mate, i could bloody boot it every time lad!!!

You obviously don't understand what I am trying to say so I won't bother

 

[Pabbers]

You obviously don't understand what I am trying to say so I won't bother

I do, your saying martinez' way is making ross over-think his play, hence him miss- controlling the ball.

But i see that as a ross issue.

 

[kenada_blue]

Think they're probably going to be moved on soon personally

And if fit, which they have been and not getting played, are better than the players that play their positions.

 

[Allezfan]

I do, your saying martinez' way is making ross over-think his play, hence him miss- controlling the ball.

But i see that as a ross issue.

Those kind of mistakes happen when a team low in confidence are on the back foot.

You put pressure on a team who can't cope with that pressure and they make bad mistakes you can capatalise on.

Newcastle did that today, we didn't. If we'd been on the front foot, one of their players would have gifted us a goal like that, an all.

 

[Mozza1987]

I do, your saying martinez' way is making ross over-think his play, hence him miss- controlling the ball.

But i see that as a ross issue.

I agree with you there mate it's shocking by Barkley and he obviously takes blame for it on the pitch but when you see the second goal today when we are stupidly passing are way out of dangerous positions you could understand if he was over thinking it and trying to do what Martinez wants the team to do

 

[Pabbers]

Those kind of mistakes happen when a team low in confidence are on the back foot.

You put pressure on a team who can't cope with that pressure and they make bad mistakes you can capatalise on.

Newcastle did that today, we didn't. If we'd been on the front foot, one of their players would have gifted us a goal like that, an all.

I agree with that, its not a martinez style of play problem at all.

when you look at the age of some of the players we are pinning out hopes on, are you surprised this is happening !?!

 

[Pabbers]

I agree with you there mate it's shocking by Barkley and he obviously takes blame for it on the pitch but when you see the second goal today when we are stupidly passing are way out of dangerous positions you could understand if he was over thinking it and trying to do what Martinez wants the team to do

It is frustrating mate, but i really honestly dont think they were passing it for the sake of it.

I see no options ahead of them, no movement or anything. The only option then is yo pass back......under moyes the choice then is to hit it long to fellaini!!

 

[GraemeS1980]

I cant watch the over passing, the panicking, the side wise play. Just look at Mirallas`s goal today it was direct through the middle fast throughh pass where the barcodes had been vunerable all game. I do believe now that they have been found out like the RS thats why we are having a bad season. I firmly believe that every season you need to completely change your style of play.

Anyway f' em they dont care about us my Mum died the other day so there is more important things to worry about in life than giving this lot any more time.

 

[Allezfan]

It is frustrating mate, but i really honestly dont think they were passing it for the sake of it.

I see no options ahead of them, no movement or anything. The only option then is yo pass back......under moyes the choice then is to hit it long to fellaini!!

We used to pass it around the back aimlessly until someone kicked it out of touch loads under Moyes, like. It's natural when you have no movement ahead.

People overstate martinez's impact on our style of play.

 

[Mozza1987]

It is frustrating mate, but i really honestly dont think they were passing it for the sake of it.

I see no options ahead of them, no movement or anything. The only option then is yo pass back......under moyes the choice then is to hit it long to fellaini!!

I agree mate but we should have just booted the ball clear for that second goal. We have conceeded 10 goals from errors this season, highest in the prem.

 

[Pabbers]

We used to pass it around the back aimlessly until someone kicked it out of touch loads under Moyes, like. It's natural when you have no movement ahead.

People overstate martinez's impact on our style of play.

We do pass more, much much more. But its supposed to created pockets of space, for the shorter pass....but no movement at all ahead of them is putting more pressure on the back 6....and the opposition know this, so the press harder....so more mistakes.

 

[daz4matty]

We do pass more, much much more. But its supposed to created pockets of space, for the shorter pass....but no movement at all ahead of them is putting more pressure on the back 6....and the opposition know this, so the press harder....so more mistakes.

We never look forward though the passes are always back or sideways