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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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toffee matt said:
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just to prove how useless that stat was about us having less shots than him - meant zilch.
 

bizzaro said:
Waffle waffle. FA conspiracy. Waffle waffle. England killing Sturridge. Waffle waffle. Can't compete with the big spenders. Waffle waffle.
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i think they must have bought about 20 players for more than what they paid for sturridge in the last 5 years alone, so it's a terrible excuse, he should be a squad player with the amount they've spent.
 

Boss_Blue said:
Is a red waffle like a blue waffle?


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Listen to Brendan Rodgers speak. Waffle waffle. He talks just like this. Waffle waffle. Ever since someone pointed this out to me. Waffle waffle. I find it a lot easier hearing him. Waffle waffle. Without throwing my shoes at the tv. Waffle waffle. Its how he talks. Waffle waffle.
 
I know the whole delusion and obsession about things from kopites but i come accross a little article on Sky SPorts this morning from Graham Souness talking about slippy G and how he just needs to adapt to his new role and he is still a star........


Now explain to me why this is so? First of all he has been playing there for the past 12 calender months now so if he hasn't adapted by now then why would we suddenly be able to because an old manager said it?

Second of all, which does grate on me admittedly the whole Slippy G / Pirlo thing. I mean just because he plays into his late 30s and does it well, why is that suddenly the same as Slippy?

And lastly, and this is the biggest shock of them all, which i know the answer to. Why cannot they let go of players until they retire? Carragher was fantastic up until the day he retired, then it was all 'well he was getting worse'. Same with Slippy now, they won't acknolage he is declining quite a bit and cling onto the hope that he will emulate a player in italy because apparently thats what all midfielders do?


and while i'm on the subject;

1) Pirlo was a bang average midfielder for most of his career. That is why AC let him go at the time because he wasnt very good. As he got older and changed position for his new club he learned and improved and found his true calling on the pitch. Its football, it happens. that is how Brittan became a central midfielder for Swansea under our manager, how Jags became a defender and Scholes as a deeper lying player.

2) Frank Lampard. the closest player to slippy and he is still playing strong. IN FACT, Lampard is still playing an attacking midfield role and is older than Slippy, does that make him better as he isn't having to massively adapt to a deep holding role. He has scored more goals in the past few games than slippy will all season. Point is, they wouldn't even acknowledge the fact he is better, probably throw some insults at him from being from round the corner in Hackney or something.
 

Ashtonian said:
I know the whole delusion and obsession about things from kopites but i come accross a little article on Sky SPorts this morning from Graham Souness talking about slippy G and how he just needs to adapt to his new role and he is still a star........


Now explain to me why this is so? First of all he has been playing there for the past 12 calender months now so if he hasn't adapted by now then why would we suddenly be able to because an old manager said it?

Second of all, which does grate on me admittedly the whole Slippy G / Pirlo thing. I mean just because he plays into his late 30s and does it well, why is that suddenly the same as Slippy?

And lastly, and this is the biggest shock of them all, which i know the answer to. Why cannot they let go of players until they retire? Carragher was fantastic up until the day he retired, then it was all 'well he was getting worse'. Same with Slippy now, they won't acknolage he is declining quite a bit and cling onto the hope that he will emulate a player in italy because apparently thats what all midfielders do?


and while i'm on the subject;

1) Pirlo was a bang average midfielder for most of his career. That is why AC let him go at the time because he wasnt very good. As he got older and changed position for his new club he learned and improved and found his true calling on the pitch. Its football, it happens. that is how Brittan became a central midfielder for Swansea under our manager, how Jags became a defender and Scholes as a deeper lying player.

2) Frank Lampard. the closest player to slippy and he is still playing strong. IN FACT, Lampard is still playing an attacking midfield role and is older than Slippy, does that make him better as he isn't having to massively adapt to a deep holding role. He has scored more goals in the past few games than slippy will all season. Point is, they wouldn't even acknowledge the fact he is better, probably throw some insults at him from being from round the corner in Hackney or something.
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Im sorry what? The same player who won the world cup with Italy and two champions leagues all before he was 30? He's played the same position his whole career as he has mo pace but is probably the best passer of the ball i've seen in my lifetime. Pirlo was a whole class of player above Gerrard and any comparison between the two is an embarassment to the Itslian.

Pirlo made any team be it club or international play better. Gerrard makes any team be it club or international change to try and make him look better. He has bedn embarrassed on the international stage where he has been found to be completely out of his depth by players in that upper class such ss Pirlo. On two separate recent occassions a 34 year old and 36 year old Pirlo was playing in his slippers as Liverpools two yard dogs chased shadows. Completely and utterly superior player in nearly every aspect. Perhaps Gerrard wins the category of best player at swinging at stuff in the last minute but that's about the only one.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Im sorry what? The same player who won the world cup with Italy and two champions leagues all before he was 30? He's played the same position his whole career as he has mo pace but is probably the best passer of the ball i've seen in my lifetime. Pirlo was a whole class of player above Gerrard and any comparison between the two is an embarassment to the Itslian.

Pirlo made any team be it club or international play better. Gerrard makes any team be it club or international change to try and make him look better. He has bedn embarrassed on the international stage where he has been found to be completely out of his depth by players in that upper class such ss Pirlo. On two separate recent occassions a 34 year old and 36 year old Pirlo was playing in his slippers as Liverpools two yard dogs chased shadows. Completely and utterly superior player in nearly every aspect. Perhaps Gerrard wins the category of best player at swinging at stuff in the last minute but that's about the only one.
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Jimmy Traore won the champions league before he was 24, does that make him a great player?


Look what i mean is Pirlo was not the player is is today all those years ago. If he hadn't moved to Juve after AC didnt want him he would be one in a long line of players who you had heard of but wasn't world class. It is easy going 'oh well he done this and this' but at the time you weren't thinking this lad is world class. Same as Gattusso, another one in the same boat. Same player in terms of ability and age as Pirlo yet Pirlo improved and became who he is and Gattuso will be long forgotton.
 

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