Lukaku replacement

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No. He's not overrated. Far from it. He's twenty years old and one of the best finishers in the prem. He has an incredible strike rate for someone who has only just turned twenty this year. People seem to forget how young he is because of his physical side. If he was 25 it'd be different but he isn't.

He makes very very good runs but the service to him in the last few games has been abysmal.
 

AaronTheBlue said:
No. He's not overrated. Far from it. He's twenty years old and one of the best finishers in the prem. He has an incredible strike rate for someone who has only just turned twenty this year. People seem to forget how young he is because of his physical side. If he was 25 it'd be different but he isn't.

He makes very very good runs but the service to him in the last few games has been abysmal.
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I totally agree with you, our wingers in particular have become very greedy recently.

Yes he is 20 but that means nothing to us in terms of replacing him because we where never going to hold onto him beyond the loan period anyway.. So all we need to do is replace a 20yo with someone of similar/more ability but sacrificing potential in the long run, which can only been seen as an improvement on Lukaku in the short term (2-3 years). He is not irreplaceable.

Does that makes sense?
 
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ProZ said:
I totally agree with you, our wingers in particular have become very greedy recently.

Yes he is 20 but that means nothing to us in terms of replacing him because we where never going to hold onto him beyond the loan period anyway.. So all we need to do is replace a 20yo with someone of similar/more ability but sacrificing potential in the long run, which can only been seen as an improvement on Lukaku in the short term (2-3 years). He is not irreplaceable.

Does that makes sense?
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I was just answering as in reply to is he overrated.

I agree with you, in THIS standard the way he's playing he's still one of the best strikers in the leagues, his physicality and finishing ability make him there. At the moment he's at the level below the likes of rvp, rooney, suarez etc.

But he's close. And in a few years will easily be up there, he's going to have a massive career and he'll score goals for fun.

So in retrospective to what you've just said, is he replaceable on his current form or ability.. yes, even that would be hard to do but yes. But is his potential replaceable? no. He's got the most potential out of every striker we've had since rooney.

He's the best striker we've had since Rooney and in a few years we'll see that retrospectively.
 
AaronTheBlue said:
I was just answering as in reply to is he overrated.

I agree with you, in THIS standard the way he's playing he's still one of the best strikers in the leagues, his physicality and finishing ability make him there. At the moment he's at the level below the likes of rvp, rooney, suarez etc.

But he's close. And in a few years will easily be up there, he's going to have a massive career and he'll score goals for fun.

So in retrospective to what you've just said, is he replaceable on his current form or ability.. yes, even that would be hard to do but yes. But is his potential replaceable? no. He's got the most potential out of every striker we've had since rooney.

He's the best striker we've had since Rooney and in a few years we'll see that retrospectively.
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Agreed.

However, in terms of Everton, do you think he is the right fit for our style? or do you think we need someone a little different.

His runs are good at times but sometimes he gets caught static in the hole.

Sometimes I just get confused with what he's actually suppose to do, because his hold-up/link-up play isn't the best and he is not the type of player to spin off defenders into space beating the offside trap.
 
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ProZ said:
Agreed.

However, in terms of Everton, do you think he is the right fit for our style? or do you think we need someone a little different.

His runs are good at times but sometimes he gets caught static in the hole.

Sometimes I just get confused with what he's actually suppose to do, because his hold-up play isn't the best and he is not the type of player to spin off defenders into space beating the offside trap.
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Yes. I think he's the best striker we could get and we are lucky to have him. He's still scored 8 in 13.. that's not a bad record now is it?. His hold up play isn't great. His passing can go from really good, to poor. But that's why he is here, he's learning different roles and ways of playing.. that's why he's here and thats why we got him. We're here to improve him as a player whilst getting the benefit of him imrpoving us as a team with his goals.

He's not been at his best the past few games.. but he's 20 inconsistency happens. He'll probably go on a run of scoring two goals per game in a few games. I think he'll bag a brace against sunderland myself.

At the moment he's not getting any form of service which is something that need to be adressed because people are mistaking our lack of service as him under performing.. which is wrong the lad works his arse off every game and is doing more than he should to try and see the ball.

If we start giving him service we have our first 20 goal a season striker in years. And trust me on this, sort the service out, we get europe. It's simple.
 

One thing to bear in mind, if we had passed the ball him more often (mirallas and gerard both guilty) hed have slotted more goals...however also take note that colemans piledriver the other day may not have happened if hed have swung a cross in.

I think martinez is telling the players to shoot on sight in some cases to stretch the opposition.

Was wondering myself which type of striker would compliment us most -- lukaku/drogba type or a thierry henry type I think.
 
He's suffered a bit in the last few games because we've not been at our best, and that becomes very difficult for the lone striker when you play just 1 up front.

But he still works his butt off. And to be honest, this is the minimum we expect of any player, because the needs of the team always comes first.

We know that he's not the finished article, no one is at 20 years old. He's not at the Rooney/Suarez/Aguero level. We would never have been able to get him on loan if that was the case. He's not irreplaceable as he currently is, and whoever Martinez brings in next year could be stellar and have a 20 goal season, but clearly we are going to find it difficult.

Like when any young player leaves a club, you not only miss what they bring you, you will miss what they would have brought to you as they develop and improve as a player. Roman has got his head screwed on pretty tightly, I'd say, judging from his comments. Above all else, he knows that the most important thing for him is to be playing regular football to keep improving as a player. In 2-3 years time will be be a better all-round player than he is today if he stays fit and injury free.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Even Jose makes mistakes.

His ego will never allow it to be seen that hes made one, so its doubtful that Lukaku has a chance at Chelsea whilst hes Manager.
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Has he tho? either way how is it gonna cost 20/30M when jose doesn't want him?

MoutsGoat said:
Your not right, I simply agreed that he wont be leading the line at Chelsea whilse Jose is in charge.

I made you red for Christmas, ho, ho, ho.
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On christmas day too :lol:

Merry christmas to you goat and all the brothers and sisters on GOT
 
Zatara said:
One thing to bear in mind, if we had passed the ball him more often (mirallas and gerard both guilty) hed have slotted more goals...however also take note that colemans piledriver the other day may not have happened if hed have swung a cross in.

I think martinez is telling the players to shoot on sight in some cases to stretch the opposition.

Was wondering myself which type of striker would compliment us most -- lukaku/drogba type or a thierry henry type I think.
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This is the point. Other teams defences spend all week in training working out ways to shut us down. Obviously Lukaku is top of the list of priorities. So what does Bobby do? He encourages Mirallas, Coleman, Ross, Bryan to shoot more. The great thing is, they are all getting on the score sheet. Defences will realise they have to defend against all the team - not just Rom. This should open up more space for him.
 

Deco said:
The lad is 20 years old.

If you think he'd cost 10m then okay mate x

Merry Christmas though
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If you think he'd cost 20/30m then okay mate x

The point is if hes on offer in the summer because chelsea don't want him then it's no way that them 20/30M figures are what are needed to buy him.

If you talking about what we need to pay to if chelsea do wanna keep him, then's there's no price that chelsea would accept ldo
 
Royleblue_95 said:
If you think he'd cost 20/30m then okay mate x

The point is if hes on offer in the summer because chelsea don't want him then it's no way that them 20/30M figures are what are needed to buy him.

If you talking about what we need to pay to if chelsea do wanna keep him, then's there's no price that chelsea would accept ldo
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They'd easily want what they paid for him. I'd say 18-22m is the price.
 

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