Moyes - IN or OUT ?

How significant is finishing above the red side two seasons in a row?

  • Very, being known as the best team on Merseyside will help the players' psyche.

    Votes: 67 50.4%
  • Not at all, they're just another team.

    Votes: 49 36.8%
  • I only have tins of beans at home, no bread and not even any cheese ffs

    Votes: 17 12.8%

  • Total voters
    133
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To be honest, I'd rather win above playing nice football. Granted, I wouldn't want us to play dirty, but if we grind out 1-0 or 2-0 wins on a regular basis, I'll be perfectly happy

Wouldn't care less me.In fact I'd enjoy it. Sick of being nice.

Nice guys come 7th. And not just in gangbangs.
 

He's generally lost to sides that could be genuinely described as stronger than ours at the time the games where played.

We could draw Juventus in a CL qualifier & we'd be up against it with Jesus in the dugout.

You're merely suggesting that 'his' record in cups somehow should earn him the boot, if he gets us to 4th in the PL!

Yes, I am.

And honestly don't rate jesus that highly, even if he does win the europa this year.
 
Who's begging?

Boldened bit is just rubbish, he's changed his approach several times this season, 2 up front, 3 at the back and so on. We play mixed football, long and short, quick one twos, counter attacks, slow build up, not sure what you want from our new manager but I reckon you're building yourself up to be very dissapointed.

It's quite simple what I want from a manager. I want them to give a sh*t and not treat us like a second class citizen and hold onto the hope a bigger club will take him on that are already in europe so he doesn't have to go through the bother of qualifying via merit.

On the playing side of things I just want us to play better football. I have no problem going long. It's the way we do it that matters. Our defenders are not capable of 60yrd pinged passes our long balls are hit and hope hoofs nothing more. I'd like that to change.
 

I don't think any of our Cb's will learn to pass no matter who our manager is. What we could do is bring fellaini back and try playing through the midfield more, mind.

When our goalie has the ball our two fullbacks push right up, when our CB's come back to collect the ball there is only two options for GK. the opposition push two players forward and we now have a two on two. if the fullbacks stay further back the opposition arnt going to commit 4 forward we then have spare players to play the ball out of defence. Also watch how our midfield run away from the man with the ball, no one comes towards the player to draw the opposition out and make space.
This only leaves one option. hooof.

This is a coaching and tactical problem. (in my eyes as some like the long ball).
 
Yes, I am.

And honestly don't rate jesus that highly, even if he does win the europa this year.

I don't know. We've generally been competitive in the cups since he's come in. We're usually in the mix. I can't think of anyone else who's cup management abilities dwarf Moyes, who is currently available and willing to take the job here.

Sometimes, the squad on the pitch have to shoulder the blame

And, to be fair, the Fiorentina game was really close. The team fought hard and were unlucky to lose it on spot kicks
 

It's quite simple what I want from a manager. I want them to give a sh*t and not treat us like a second class citizen and hold onto the hope a bigger club will take him on that are already in europe so he doesn't have to go through the bother of qualifying via merit.

On the playing side of things I just want us to play better football. I have no problem going long. It's the way we do it that matters. Our defenders are not capable of 60yrd pinged passes our long balls are hit and hope hoofs nothing more. I'd like that to change.

In why way do you think Moyes doesn't give a sh*t? He said well over a month ago he's waiting till the end of the season, that's fine, I don't see the issue with that at all. Not sure why its the end of the world that he wants to do this.

Pretty sure the stats show our long ball, isn't actually that long and that most of the direct/long balls arrive at our players, especially evident when you consider we have Fellaini, because its amazing how many times he gets the ball and since he's not that mobile, you can only assume our hits are more accurate than credit is being given to.
 
The same Cardiff City who are dominating the Championship? (And who got a soft draw to the final in 2008)

They're hardly Aldershot Town mate

Mikey??? The same Cardiff who've never been in the top league in all Moyes time as a manager and consistently sell their best players. There's no mitigating circumstances for that lid!
 

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