Kevin Mirallas

[Joao Moutinho]

I am surprised, to an extent by the comments, but I think they might do some good. At the moment, he's looking like a great player, but can't seem to finish 90 mins. He'd given up defending by 80 on Sunday. Why? Was he tired or was it a case of shirking responsibility, or both? As I think Davek said the other day, he was sprinting up the other end after 80 mins, which makes you wonder why we didn't see him making more of a defensive effort.

This sounds like a challenge from Moyes to prove him wrong. I think the lid's ego (possibly) needs to be kept in check to an extent *looks at gold Bentley* and from watching him, I get the faintest impression of just a hint of that Suarez attitude which reacts to criticism with big performances. (No, I'm not insinuating he's a horrible little racist snide).

I'm not saying he's a prima donna by any stretch, but MAYBE in games like Spurs and City, where the onus is on us to defend, he needs to be prepared to muck in and do the dirty work and not think he's above it in any way, as well as score boss sexy goals. Suarez does it (he knows this only too well ffs), so why shouldn't Kev? I'm NOT having a go, but I do think he looks like he could do with some toughening up and a little bit of riling up. Criticism seems to have worked wonders for players like Suarez.

Agree.

Don't like his new celebration in that regard. It's very "look at me and how well I did".

 

[Brennan]

Agree.

Don't like his new celebration in that regard. It's very "look at me and how well I did".

His celebration is boss ffs !

 

[Joao Moutinho]

His celebration is boss ffs !

If it was Suarez doing it, you look at him and think 'what a ****ing dick head'.

 

[Brennan]

If it was Suarez doing it, you look at him and think 'what a ****ing dick head'.

I think that no matter what Suarez does.

Cahill used to punch the corner flag. Celebrations are meant to be funny and a way of showing off, because you've just scored. When Jelavic scored the other week he ran to the corner ripped his shirt off and did a knee slide. Again, it was boss.

 

[Ihaters]

if he does thrive on being proven wrong...i'd love it moyes had said - 'he is absolutlely bl00dy ****e, i should havbe bought 6 naismiths instead.. and hes belgian..what a load of t,wats they are...'

that should get him motivated

If that worked, many would have a go at him for slating Fellaini as a Belgian and blame Moyes if his form started to dip.

 

[bluebottle]

I am surprised, to an extent by the comments, but I think they might do some good. At the moment, he's looking like a great player, but can't seem to finish 90 mins. He'd given up defending by 80 on Sunday. Why? Was he tired or was it a case of shirking responsibility, or both? As I think Davek said the other day, he was sprinting up the other end after 80 mins, which makes you wonder why we didn't see him making more of a defensive effort.

This sounds like a challenge from Moyes to prove him wrong. I think the lid's ego (possibly) needs to be kept in check to an extent *looks at gold Bentley* and from watching him, I get the faintest impression of just a hint of that Suarez attitude which reacts to criticism with big performances. (No, I'm not insinuating he's a horrible little racist snide).

I'm not saying he's a prima donna by any stretch, but MAYBE in games like Spurs and City, where the onus is on us to defend, he needs to be prepared to muck in and do the dirty work and not think he's above it in any way, as well as score boss sexy goals. Suarez does it (he knows this only too well ffs), so why shouldn't Kev? I'm NOT having a go, but I do think he looks like he could do with some toughening up and a little bit of riling up. Criticism seems to have worked wonders for players like Suarez.

Well put mate. It seems an odd way of doing things but could work out like one of those toy cars you have to drag back a few times and then let go.

 

[paulbefc]

Agree.

Don't like his new celebration in that regard. It's very "look at me and how well I did".

I did cringe a bit when he did it against Stoke, but I'd like to think it was more of a religious thing? Either way, if Mirallas does have a little bit of an ego, I think managing it is important. I also think it's of more importance than is immediately obvious. It's why, for example, Sir Alex has taken often extreme action to make examples of overlarge egos in the past and heavily reward good attitudes (Nevilles, Giggs, Scholes etc).

I don't think Kevin looks particularly bad for it, he looks a really nice lad, but you've got to be careful for the good of the squad in the long term. This looks like it's just a gentle reminder for him and I wouldn't be surprised if it was all he needed.

EDIT: I should add, regarding the celebration, as long as he does a bit more defensive work at times when it's needed, if he scores another goal like the ones he's been scoring at Arsenal to win the game, he can whip of his shirt to reveal a t-shirt slogan of "Koff Moyes you massive weapon, I'm Kevin Mirallas and I defend when I want" and I wouldn't question the lid.

 

[billycopper]

Poor excuse. His latest injury was his groin, not hamstring.

If Mirallas is feeling his muscles tightening up it makes sense for him to signal to come off rather than play on until he pulls something. He's been starting every week recently and putting in important performances compared to earlier in the season where he was probably pushing himself too much and spending at least every other week in the treatment room.

We only have a small squad and yet Moyes expects everyone to be 100% committed 100% of the time. We very often have players coming back too early from injury or playing through the pain barrier whilst their understudies are unable to get a game.

It does seem like bad man management to me too to undermine our most in form player at such a crucial stage of the season.

 

[Titus Bramble]

I am surprised, to an extent by the comments, but I think they might do some good. At the moment, he's looking like a great player, but can't seem to finish 90 mins. He'd given up defending by 80 on Sunday. Why? Was he tired or was it a case of shirking responsibility, or both? As I think Davek said the other day, he was sprinting up the other end after 80 mins, which makes you wonder why we didn't see him making more of a defensive effort.

This sounds like a challenge from Moyes to prove him wrong. I think the lid's ego (possibly) needs to be kept in check to an extent *looks at gold Bentley* and from watching him, I get the faintest impression of just a hint of that Suarez attitude which reacts to criticism with big performances. (No, I'm not insinuating he's a horrible little racist snide).

I'm not saying he's a prima donna by any stretch, but MAYBE in games like Spurs and City, where the onus is on us to defend, he needs to be prepared to muck in and do the dirty work and not think he's above it in any way, as well as score boss sexy goals. Suarez does it (he knows this only too well ffs), so why shouldn't Kev? I'm NOT having a go, but I do think he looks like he could do with some toughening up and a little bit of riling up. Criticism seems to have worked wonders for players like Suarez.

This is bang on. To me, Moyes is giving Mirallas the 'prove me wrong' jibe. For the last few weeks Mirallas has been our best attacking player, and we all want him to do it for 90 minutes in the remaining 7 games. His form could be the difference between us making Europe or not.

 

[Brennan]

If Mirallas is feeling his muscles tightening up it makes sense for him to signal to come off rather than play on until he pulls something. He's been starting every week recently and putting in important performances compared to earlier in the season where he was probably pushing himself too much and spending at least every other week in the treatment room.

We only have a small squad and yet Moyes expects everyone to be 100% committed 100% of the time. We very often have players coming back too early from injury or playing through the pain barrier whilst their understudies are unable to get a game.

It does seem like bad man management to me too to undermine our most in form player at such a crucial stage of the season.

All players get niggling injuries, some just make a bigger deal out of them than others.

 

[pfim]

If Mirallas is feeling his muscles tightening up it makes sense for him to signal to come off rather than play on until he pulls something. He's been starting every week recently and putting in important performances compared to earlier in the season where he was probably pushing himself too much and spending at least every other week in the treatment room.

We only have a small squad and yet Moyes expects everyone to be 100% committed 100% of the time. We very often have players coming back too early from injury or playing through the pain barrier whilst their understudies are unable to get a game.

It does seem like bad man management to me too to undermine our most in form player at such a crucial stage of the season.

He's one of the most influential players in the squad, he needs to find a way to stay on the pitch. I'm with Moyes on this one.

Moyes challenged him to get more goals and they are starting to come. Hopefully this is along those lines.

 

[paulbefc]

All players get niggling injuries, some just make a bigger deal out of them than others.

At the risk of getting some stick: Osman has been brought up in a negative light in the last few pages a few times. He, however, has happily played and played well with a broken toe in the past and probably other problems. Baines has been playing through pain since before Christmas. Could we see Mirallas doing the same? Perhaps not, at the minute. But that is what's required at Everton and all differences in ability aside, he needs to know that sooner rather than later.

 

[steken1]

If it was Suarez doing it, you look at him and think 'what a ****ing dick head'.

We generally don't like ego's at Everton. Some of our greatest ever have been deviod of them altogether, but, these day most top players are like that.

Massaging it is more likely to work than cutting them down to size, which this appears to be.

 

[ToffeeDan]

In fairness he laid down and called his own substitution v Stoke and at Spurs, instead of offering another threat upfield we had Naismith and we surrendered the lead. Take a look at the stats - he's scarcely finished a game for us and, in case anyone wasn't aware, I believe that is something a certain Andy van der Meyde never managed in his entire Everton career.

As far as the goal celebrations go we all think our players' celebrations are great and every other teams' players are sh1te - especially when we've conceded.

 

[MartSlinger]

All Moyes wants is for him to play every minute of every game because he is important to us. Nothing wrong with asking for that. But as i said previously i think it is worded wrong.