Lescott : would you have him back?

[Neiler]

Would have him back in a heart beat. Wont happen though.

 

[Summerskin]

The fact is though, this is a fantastic player who could fit right into our team, if he was able to fit into our pay structure (heitinga is on a rumoured 60k a week) and we offloaded heitinga and got him in on loan we would then have cash to spend on those young players we want....

I'd be on for a loan...using the heitinga cash for a young player to develop.
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A.) Lescott is on around 30k more per week than Heitinga, who allegedly at £62k had to take a paycut from Atletico to come here.

B). Even if we offloaded Heitinga and used his wage for Lescott, that's 33% of his already heavily-taxed pay vanished, something to which a Premier League footballer won't be too happy about.

C). If he were to come back to Everton, either on loan with us paying his wages or on a permanent basis, I don't see where we're going to find a parity sum of £90k a week, which roughly estimates to £4.7m p.a.

D). We all know we'll be lucky to get anything above £8m for Heitinga, and this is Everton we're talking about here, how much of that will go back into Finch Farm or to the banks? Anything we'd have left certainly wouldn't get "those young players we want" on top of Lescott.

E). The events around Lescott's departure won't sit too well with many people, especially if we're paying f*cking wages like that.

F). He's 30, it would be staggeringly ill-founded business in every way to offer sums of money like that to a central defender, if we're talking about breaking the bank for f*cking Wesley Sneijder or something then it's a different beast.

Lescott is a great player and a partership of him and Jagielka would do us the world of good; But if we were to get him on loan with Man City paying his wages it would be a miracle & a reasonable stop gap until the summer at best, because we certainly couldn't afford a transfer fee and wages similar to what he's on now, as it would blow our wage structure out of the water by some distance.

And he's a [Poor language removed], so it's a no from me.

 

[bignev23]

Why would they loan though , what would be in it for them ? They stuck to their guns over having no interest in loaning Johnson and loaning a player back to the club they spent over £20m buying him from would damage their 'brand' as well, it might happen but I dont see a loan.

yes The only benefit of loaning him to us for them would be if we bought him in the summer, but i don`t think they would struggle to offload him anyway if they don`t overprice him. im not saying it will happen but i`d take him back if we could get him for the right money.TBH im suprised this rumour is going on i can`t see why they would want to let him go at all.

 

[Essex Blue]

I think Lescott is part of our past, and should stay that way.
A very good player,but would be a very expensive deal for us and would offer nothing for the future.
Whatever success we have had has been based on David Moyes signing young players,improving them dramatically and selling them for big fees to allow us to strengthen our squad with more good young players.
We need to be looking for young players that can develop and if we need to sell them then we can get a big fee.
I would be much happier see us sign the young Norweigan lad Forren than bring back Lescott.We will never sign Lescott,he will probably cost about 60k per week and it offers nothing for our long term future.

To be fair, there are doubts as to whether Forren has the ability to make it in the Premier League, whilst Lescott has another 3 years left of playing football at the very top level.

If you buy potential, then there is always the chance of them never reaching it, and even if they do, it can take some players up to three years to get up to speed etc, and if they do reach their potential, people soon start talking about selling the player to a different club who really reap the rewards.

There are pros and cons to buying proven and unproven talent, I'm just making the point that investing in younger players doesn't necessarily guarantee a better outcome than buying a more expensive senior talent.

 

[micknick]

Lets be honest.

Its never ever going to happen is it.

Ryan Shawcross

 

[Neiler]

I heard United an option on Shawcorss mate.

 

[Bigmaclad]

I don't think he'll sign lads.

 

[sheeds]

I heard United an option on Shawcorss mate.

They had a very strong look at him in the summer I know that and a couple of journalists were convinced it was a done deal , I certainly think united are monitoring at the very least.

 

[bignev23]

They had a very strong look at him in the summer I know that and a couple of journalists were convinced it was a done deal , I certainly think united are monitoring at the very least.

I know utd are desperate for defenders but i can`t see Shawcross going there. I don`t rate him that highly though.

 

[Walken]

They had a very strong look at him in the summer I know that and a couple of journalists were convinced it was a done deal , I certainly think united are monitoring at the very least.

They really mustnt be pleased with how Smalling and Jones are working out if thats the case.

 

[Papa Shango]

Lescott didnt do anything wrong. Im sick of this narrow minded thinking. He wanted what was best for him and it worked out well for him. Good on him.

We jib players off when we dont want them, does that make us evil too?

Football is a business these days, get used to it.

 

[Ihaters]

Lescott didnt do anything wrong. Im sick of this narrow minded thinking. He wanted what was best for him and it worked out well for him. Good on him.

We jib players off when we dont want them, does that make us evil too?

Football is a business these days, get used to it.

This I agree with. If he hadn't thrown his toys out the pram he would still of been playing for us in the Europa league or no european games at all, he got us 24 mil and I still don't buy that he threw the Arsenal game.. they were simply massively better than us and he was a convenient scape goat.
He left for better things, he also got them, but having said all that, I don't see much point in him coming back now as we have equevelent players and the money could be used better elsewhere.

 

[bignev23]

They really mustnt be pleased with how Smalling and Jones are working out if thats the case.

I was thinking this yesterday. Jones was a regular last season and hasn`t been seen this year and Smalling is rarely seen either now.

 

[Papa Shango]

This I agree with. If he hadn't thrown his toys out the pram he would still of been playing for us in the Europa league or no european games at all, he got us 24 mil and I still don't buy that he threw the Arsenal game.. they were simply massively better than us and he was a convenient scape goat.
He left for better things, he also got them, but having said all that, I don't see much point in him coming back now as we have equevelent players and the money could be used better elsewhere.

He was actually one of our better players in that game! Well least worst would be more apt so yeah I agree with the scapegoat thing.

Agreed with the money being used better. Him and Jagielka did make a pretty great pairing though.

 

[kenada_blue]

A.) Lescott is on around 30k more per week than Heitinga, who allegedly at £62k had to take a paycut from Atletico to come here.

B). Even if we offloaded Heitinga and used his wage for Lescott, that's 33% of his already heavily-taxed pay vanished, something to which a Premier League footballer won't be too happy about.

C). If he were to come back to Everton, either on loan with us paying his wages or on a permanent basis, I don't see where we're going to find a parity sum of £90k a week, which roughly estimates to £4.7m p.a.

D). We all know we'll be lucky to get anything above £8m for Heitinga, and this is Everton we're talking about here, how much of that will go back into Finch Farm or to the banks? Anything we'd have left certainly wouldn't get "those young players we want" on top of Lescott.

E). The events around Lescott's departure won't sit too well with many people, especially if we're paying f*cking wages like that.

F). He's 30, it would be staggeringly ill-founded business in every way to offer sums of money like that to a central defender, if we're talking about breaking the bank for f*cking Wesley Sneijder or something then it's a different beast.

Lescott is a great player and a partership of him and Jagielka would do us the world of good; But if we were to get him on loan with Man City paying his wages it would be a miracle & a reasonable stop gap until the summer at best, because we certainly couldn't afford a transfer fee and wages similar to what he's on now, as it would blow our wage structure out of the water by some distance.

And he's a [Poor language removed], so it's a no from me.

Iiiiiiin one.


Sort out the defence next season. We need another striker/attacker to kill games. Thats the problem