2025/26 David Moyes

[davek]

Still struggling with the reading comprehension, I see.

"Equally, I can recognise small signs of progress without being blinded by large amounts of stagnation."

What am I missing?

You still see small signs of progress through the stagnation that's taking place. That's the ONLY way of reading what you wrote.

Some advice: turn the JCB off; climb out of the cab; clamber out of the huge pit you've dug for yourself.

 

[b-rad]

What am I missing?

You still see small signs of progress through the stagnation that's taking place. That's the ONLY way of reading what you wrote.

Some advice: turn the JCB off; climb out of the cab; clamber out of the huge pit you've dug for yourself.

Yes. That’s exactly what I wrote and also exactly what I meant.

And no, they are also not mutually exclusive. We are largely stagnant under Moyes, yet there have been some elements of progress. See how those two coexist?

I’m glad we’re on the same page now.

 

[davek]

He's an irascible and completely unlikeable individual who has added arrogance to his character since lifting that European piss bucket West Ham won.

That's all quite besides his attributes (or lack of) as a manager.

A feller who thinks he's doing Everton favours being here stinking the gaff out with his Jurassic football.

 

[COYBL25]

He's an irascible and completely unlikeable individual who has added arrogance to his character since lifting that European piss bucket West Ham won.

That's all quite besides his attributes (or lack of) as a manager.

A feller who thinks he's doing Everton favours being here stinking the gaff out with his Jurassic football.

You`ve been on one now for over three days now.

It`s very unhealthy.

Log off, go for a ride on your bike, throw darts at your Keir Starmer dartboard.

Hell, even go and measure the gaps inbewteen the pointing at the new ground if it makes you happy.

Just do anything to take your mind off this meltdown you seem to be having.

 

[davek]

Yes. That’s exactly what I wrote and also exactly what I meant.

And no, they are also not mutually exclusive. We are largely stagnant under Moyes, yet there have been some elements of progress. See how those two coexist?

I’m glad we’re on the same page now.

Today in this thread you've said this in the last few pages: 1/ you see a club "largely stagnating" under Moyes...but 2/ "it's inane to judge" for a single season...and 3/ you "hope we part with Moyes in the summer".

Just to clarify: you're saying he should go?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Not good enough for Everton apparently though. Presiding over an unbeaten season and linked with Real Madrid but some Everton fans have concerns he’ll rock our mid table boat too much that we might win something and then fall out with a few people, so best stick with managers who won’t win anything.

 

[blueboy72]

and he’s not going

You were saying the same about dyche Matty. You wanted him to get a new deal. Your bar is set so low.
Why no talks of a new deal for Moyes ??? Answer that one. Maybe because they’re waiting to see where we finish. We finish bottom half and him playing McNeil every game who was Nearly out the door in January and ignoring 70/80mil worth of signings and a loan signing bar 10 minutes here, 20 minutes there. I think will look really bad on Moyes, add in he wasn’t the man TFG wanted.

And it’s obvious the committee and Moyes aren’t aligned, couldn’t agree on full backs in January. Will they want another window of Moyes saying no to their players and going for older ones from the prem for a high premium, which is not a good strategy for Everton. Links to Ben white, Ake, Soucek, McGinn, probably Stones, Bowen and Harry Wilson will also be on his list

 

[blueboy72]

No one probably is when you have the Billionaire's of everyone else. Rarely anyone else wins anything bar the usual lot

Palace ??

 

[Ring master]

Palace ??

Not sure anyone understands the word rare I know they and the odd other one have won. But it's almost like a one off type thing in over a decade. I don't include euro comps

 

[blueboy72]

Not sure anyone understands the word rare

Plenty of teams smaller than Everton have won trophies since we have . And Moyes has been manager for nearly half that period
I won’t name them, because we all know who
They’re. Villa will probably win a European trophy this season

 

[Swartzy]

Not good enough for Everton apparently though. Presiding over an unbeaten season and linked with Real Madrid but some Everton fans have concerns he’ll rock our mid table boat too much that we might win something and then fall out with a few people, so best stick with managers who won’t win anything.

He wouldn't last a season there now..

 

[Lanolin]

Not good enough for Everton apparently though. Presiding over an unbeaten season and linked with Real Madrid but some Everton fans have concerns he’ll rock our mid table boat too much that we might win something and then fall out with a few people, so best stick with managers who won’t win anything.

He's so far past being the old Mourinho now it's not even funny. This unbeaten season is going to end up without him actually winning anything, same as most seasons for about the last 15 years since he was one of the very best. He might do alright at Madrid because of the way they run the club, but he'd be an awful fit here.

 

[b-rad]

Today in this thread you've said this in the last few pages: 1/ you see a club "largely stagnating" under Moyes...but 2/ "it's inane to judge" for a single season...and 3/ you "hope we part with Moyes in the summer".

Just to clarify: you're saying he should go?

I think I might stop this conversation as I get tired of explaining how two seemingly conflicting ideas and thoughts can actually both be true at the same time.

1. yes, I think we have largely stagnated this season. There have been signs of progress under Moyes, and he has brought some stability, but not enough to be satisfied overall. General stability, signs of progress, but largely stagnant. They can all be true at once. None are absolutes.

2. no, this is where you are struggling to read more than a few words at a time again. It's also why you are getting confused and why I am getting frustrated.
Here's what I said..."it's inane to judge expectations for a single season where the club has been constantly bottom half and worrying about relegation as being the same as where the club had been consistently top half".
To simplify that a little. Expectations after consistently being bottom half for years are not the same as expectations after consistently being in the top half for years. It's inane to judge them as being the same.

3. yes. As explained. Ad nauseum.

It must be interesting going through life only able to see things in binary. Phenomenal or dire. Unable to see the good in a bad situation, and unable to see the negatives in something which is largely positive. It's an interesting stance to take, but not sure it's one I can understand.

 

[Smurph]

We've got to spend £40m+ odd this summer on Rohl's obligation and Grealish just to stand still.

If we plop £100m on top of that for another club record spend, what are we expecting?

7th to 12th - and the small margins between them.

My hope is always on cups, and winning a 'big game' or two. It's probably why my enthusiasm on Moyes isn't the best.

[Edit] Or maybe put some hope in that we're building towards the next few years, signing upcoming talent who we'll develop. /sigh.

Can we afford to do much more than Rohl and Grealish?

In the last accounts we spent over 200 milion on wages and transfer fees. We need the new stadium to add 50 or 60 million quid just to meet the 85% squad cost rules don't we? Unless I've missed something.

Think we still need a big sale and high earners off the books to fund much more. I expected us to sell Branthwaite, but maybe not anymore. If we can get big money for N'diaye or Garner I reckon we'll go for it, just to fund some full backs.

Having to hit a 70% target with a Conferance League qualification feels like it would be more damaging than beneficial.

My expectations are low because of our financial situation rather than manager. I think we need Moyes for a couple of more years. The margins between mid table and relegation are razor thin too.

That was all depressing to write down.

 

[Bluepablo]

how do you moyes make us concede
two injury time goals

that’s sackable!!!


have a word with yourself

he’s here next season so back him

or don’t bother supporting us

it’s getting boring the toxicity of him

( online ) and i will repeat ONLINE

I can support the team & criticise the manager if I believe it’s deserved.

I will always support Everton, always have, but we have had few managers that are beyond criticism.