Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Indeed, they deserved another go. Dibling has done nothing so far.Like Rohl did against Villa? Or Aznou against Sunderland? Playing well didn’t do them any favours, straight back on the bench/ ostracised.
Indeed, they deserved another go. Dibling has done nothing so far.Like Rohl did against Villa? Or Aznou against Sunderland? Playing well didn’t do them any favours, straight back on the bench/ ostracised.
Yeah but that's where i'm saying is it just him being being him in your eyes, or if this is his actual final term as a manager in his own eyes.We’ll never know what the reason is.
If he’d been even a tiny bit holder this season we’d probably be on a handful more points and be in a fantastic position for Europe, but he’s changed winning teams to cram his old favourites in which have then played poorly the next game, he’s taken far too long to make the same ineffective substitutions and ultimately a fully fit and confident Dibling Rohl Iroegbunam or George might be giving him far more now in the push for Europe than McNeil or Gueye.
On what basis can you say we would probably have a "handful more points" ? We may easily have had a few less points. I'm fairly confident if lads were tearing it up in training they'd be straight in.
Said exactly this in other threads, it’s just bizarre management, and if I’m TFG I wouldn’t give Moyes or his transfer committee another pound to spend.
I am not having the he sees them every day in training, they are crap horseshiz either, they have not been given a fair crack of the whip, end of.
Also, forget the training, during matches he’s watching Dwight mctreacle revert to type and not bother and he’s still picking him, or Myko not be able to cross his legs never mind a football, and still picks him.
If your a good lad who listens to Davey and does what he says, you get picked, regardless of ability or performance.
Yes, he was absolutely shocking against Sunderland. As bad as performance ive seen from an Everton winger in years.Has he really been that bad though when he has played? Yes he hasn’t done much but he hasn’t played a load of suicide balls like McNeil has.
He’s probably fed up of seeing the same old players putting in the same old rubbish getting picked every week whilst Moyes suggests he’s not good enough in press conferences.
Why should any of the bench players push for a fair crack of the whip when Gueye McNeil Tarkwoski etc. can literally make mistake after mistake and never get dropped.
What is his incentive? Is it so fans on a forum can have a more valid reason to question his absence?Indeed, they deserved another go. Dibling has done nothing so far.
Yes, he was absolutely shocking against Sunderland. As bad as performance ive seen from an Everton winger in years.
Should he have been given more minutes though? Yes 100% because for every bad half he's had, Mcneil has had 3 full games of similar crapness
He was bad against Sunderland, and Wolves, but equally there was promise when he came in in the Anfield derby. Young players give you inconsistency, McNeil is consistently terrible and has no ceiling to improve.
I thought he done well against Forest away and was ok against Burnley away as well.
But Sunderland at home, that simply wasnt acceptable so no surprise he wasn't given minutes in the next couple of games. But here we are 3 months later and I dont think he's come on for a minute has he?
Vlasic wasn't up to itwe’ll never know what’s gone on but I just find it continuously frustrating that Lookman, Vlasic, Moise Kean, Chermiti all apparently so poor for us they could barely get a game, and now we’re in a similar situation where for some unknown reason Dibling Rohl Aznou and to a certain extent George Alcaraz Iroegbunam are deemed not good enough to start for us and for some of them not even get minutes.
We’ve had some terrible teams yet not a single young player except Branthwaite can break in and claim a spot (under multiple managers this is btw)
Vlasic wasn't up to it
Ohh I agree with your point of view especially naming Lookman who's developed into a world class player. The problem is we keep appointing pragmatic managers so talented youth are to 'risky' to playYeah but let’s be honest neither were a whole host of players who played for us since in attacking positions. At one point he was a Croatian international.
Our bar for young players seems to be ‘must be brilliant and not make mistakes’. If you’ve got a load of prem experience then you can pretty much stink the gaffe out and get over 100 appearances and a few contracts out of Everton.
Lookman wanted everything now. It took him a further 3 seasons, two transfers and two loans to become the player he is. It's not as if he walked away and instantly became a great player, he probably wasn't ready when he was at Everton.Ohh I agree with your point of view especially naming Lookman who's developed into a world class player. The problem is we keep appointing pragmatic managers so talented youth are to 'risky' to play
We don’t know what happens in training.Like Rohl did against Villa? Or Aznou against Sunderland? Playing well didn’t do them any favours, straight back on the bench/ ostracised.
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