2025/26 David Moyes

[Rita_Poon]

It changes the mentality though - like for example how Moyes left all those years ago and Martinez instantly made the exact same squad perform WELL better.

good un!

 

[Rita_Poon]

I never seen people fight so hard to maintain mediocrity, and I appreciate what Moyes did last season but it's clear his tendencies to overly cautious in his tactics and team selection are creating barriers to winning pivotal matches. After today unless he pulls off some miraculous form that somehow brings European football, he shouldn't be in the conversation to manage us next season, although the notion of not seeing Soucek in an everton kit will be excruciating....

every match is pivotal when it's lost.

 

[DualityNSNO]

good un!

Yeah it was solely down to Lukaku, not the fact we actually attacked a lot more and looked like we have an idea other than "cross it in the box".

Alternatively, Lukaku doesn't join us and even if he does isn't as good for Moyes, and you know it - he was there to score goals, not run the channels for 90 min and hold off players.

 

[Milkman]

It changes the mentality though - like for example how Moyes left all those years ago and Martinez instantly made the exact same squad perform WELL better.

It did fall apart for Boberto quickly due to his own stubbornness, but we don't have to pretend that his first season wasn't an instant change for us, after a decade of "knife to a gunfight".

We played better football in Moyes' last season than in Martinez's first.

 

[OzarkBlue]

Davie will probably make big changes against Citeh and then have an "I told you so" after we get tonked.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The laziness of the critique is a concern.

"Why are we suddenly under pressure from set pieces?"

"Why are we only playing for 45 minutes again?"

"We were blunt today, tried to advance KDH but we were negated, what is the answer?"

/mentality, attitude, set up....

etc.

 

[Drico]

Yeah it was solely down to Lukaku, not the fact we actually attacked a lot more and looked like we have an idea other than "cross it in the box".

Alternatively, Lukaku doesn't join us and even if he does isn't as good for Moyes, and you know it - he was there to score goals, not run the channels for 90 min and hold off players.

Moyes would have ruined him. He wouldn't "work hard enough" for the Moyesiah.

 

[FinnTrikker]

Our failure to attain the league placing for a Euro or CL is something we have failed at numerous seasons under managers over last 15 years.From failing to win at already relegated Wolves for a CL place in 2010 under Moyes,getting beat by Soton for CL place in 2014,2 0wn goals that day by Seamus,under Martinez.Losing to Fulham under Silva 2018 for Euro spot,a team if i recall had lost previous 20 games.Best until last the total capitulation under Carlo 2021 when in running for a CL spot,getting beat in the run in by relegated sides Sheff Utd and Bournemouth at home.We finished 10th.
My point is unless we tend to fail when we need that final push to get us to attain required placing we tend to fall short whoever is the manager...

 

[jceverton]

What about the belief that Moyes could do better next season or even this season with still 4 games to play? What cowardice to not believe in a manger that has taken us from relegation strugglers to European contenders inside 15 months.

You quote very well run clubs in Brentford and Brighton. Imo the people in charge of those of those clubs would scoff at the idea of getting rid of Moyes at this moment if they had him in charge.

Hilarious! Those clubs would never of appointed him in the first place.

 

[DualityNSNO]

We played better football in Moyes' last season than in Martinez's first.

Can't agree with that at all mate, sorry.

 

[Joey66]

every match is pivotal when it's lost.

We seem to be losing a lot though

 

[Rita_Poon]

Yeah it was solely down to Lukaku, not the fact we actually attacked a lot more and looked like we have an idea other than "cross it in the box".

Alternatively, Lukaku doesn't join us and even if he does isn't as good for Moyes, and you know it - he was there to score goals, not run the channels for 90 min and hold off players.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Rita_Poon]

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[DualityNSNO]

The laziness of the critique is a concern.

"Why are we suddenly under pressure from set pieces?"

"Why are we only playing for 45 minutes again?"

"We were blunt today, tried to advance KDH but we were negated, what is the answer?"

/mentality, attitude, set up....

etc.

I'd call it lazy too if it wasn't happening nearly every game since he joined us again though? All those things you wrote are all true and have been so many times this season it's not even funny. We can add "no subs" and "favourites" in there and it's the perfect Moyes soup.