2025/26 Tyler Dibling

[ValBlue]

Scapegoated was what he was, by Moyes.

If you remember Mykolenko was 5-15 yards around Grealish whenever Grealish had the ball in advanced positions.

You could see Armstrong covering for him a couple of times on the left back role!

Its a huge difference to having no one within 30 yards.

I would guarantee that if the roles were reversed and Dibling had ANYONE supporting him today within 5-15 yards then he'd have had a chance.

Moyes' plan was "get it to Jack". Get bodies around Grealish.

Then hes had the opportunity at any point to bring on a RB and chosen against it and hooked a kid.

Thats very poor confidence sapping scapegoating.

Dibling had nobody within 40 yards, that doesn’t negate the fact that Mykolenko offered NOTHING on the other side.

Grealish is better than Dibling, obviously, so he’s going to be able to do something in tight situations more often (as he did today), I just reject hyping up Mykolenko’s performance to strengthen the argument that Dibling was left on an island on the other flank. That’s obvious in itself.

I can’t think of a single time Mykolenko made a darting run beyond Grealish to create width. Grealish is just quality enough to create things in spite of his full back. Dibling, 10 years his junior, is not at that level yet.

 

[Zatara]

Brentford surrounded him with two or three players, knowing he would have to beat them all or go backwards, as there was no other outlet.

The concerning thing which i think is even more daft was replacing Dibling with Rohl and then leaving him in the same predicament with Obrien.

 

[Zatara]

Dibling had nobody within 40 yards, that doesn’t negate the fact that Mykolenko offered NOTHING on the other side.

Grealish is better than Dibling, obviously, so he’s going to be able to do something in tight situations more often (as he did today), I just reject hyping up Mykolenko’s performance to strengthen the argument that Dibling was left on an island on the other flank. That’s obvious in itself.

I can’t think of a single time Mykolenko made a darting run beyond Grealish to create width. Grealish is just quality enough to create things in spite of his full back. Dibling, 10 years his junior, is not at that level yet.

Mate i think McNeil, Mykolenko, Rohl or a one legged man could have been around Grealish.

My point is purely and solely that Grealish had players around him including Mykolenko as an option.

Thats all. Not saying any were effective.

On the other side Dibling had no one.

Hes then taken off Dibling instead of giving him help. Something that wont benefit Dibling at all.

 

[ValBlue]

Mate i think McNeil, Mykolenko, Rohl or a one legged man could have been around Grealish.

My point is purely and solely that Grealish had players around him including Mykolenko as an option.

Thats all. Not saying any were effective.

On the other side Dibling had no one.

Hes then taken off Dibling instead of giving him help. Something that wont benefit Dibling at all.

Then we’ll have to disagree, I don’t think Mykolenko offered a single progressive pass option for Grealish all game.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Mate i think McNeil, Mykolenko, Rohl or a one legged man could have been around Grealish.

My point is purely and solely that Grealish had players around him including Mykolenko as an option.

Thats all. Not saying any were effective.

On the other side Dibling had no one.

Hes then taken off Dibling instead of giving him help. Something that wont benefit Dibling at all.

Crying with laughter if you think Myko is an option for anyone going forward.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Crying with laughter if you think Myko is an option for anyone going forward.

Agree with both points but even by just being a body, he takes a man.

Im sure data geeks could show Mykolenko was closer to Grealish all game than O'Brien to Dibling.

The truth is, we need full backs. As we have for... 4 years?

 

[Zatara]

Crying with laughter if you think Myko is an option for anyone going forward.

A player standing within a clear passing range of 5-15 yards is a passing option.

Doesnt matter if its a one legged man.

Grealish imo had that today and the defenders saw that and adjusted their positions to cover for the pass im sure.

Dibling had nothing. No support.

 

[ValBlue]

Agree with both points but even by just being a body, he takes a man.

Im sure data geeks could show Mykolenko was closer to Grealish all game than O'Brien to Dibling.

The truth is, we need full backs. As we have for... 4 years?

This is exactly the problem I’m having. Are we really using ‘how far away was Mykolenko’ as a judgement of how good he was?

Why do we need to measure the distance between Myko and Grealish to see that O’Brien was often 30 yards away from Dibling? You don’t, both are bad.

I’m sure Myko was closer on average (wow, amazing), but I reckon Myko got beyond Grealish as many times as OBrien got beyond Dibling. We don’t need to be finding irrelevant ‘wins’ in Mykolenko’s performance to also acknowledge that Dibling has absolutely no support either.

Dibling is being hung out to dry, but let’s not pretend that Grealish has loads of support on the other side though because he blatantly doesn’t. He’s just experienced enough to work in spite of that, Dibling will hopefully get there.

 

[chicoazul]

Lads we’re gonna need you on top of your game to identify the signings needed to fix Everton lads. All days off and leave cancelled this month, to the YouTubes.

 

[DanEFC92]

Look, you can point out that he didn't have support going forward and that's fair. But there was no effort out there today, no closing down no nothing. Any time he had the ball he passed backwards. It was poor performance.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Agree with both points but even by just being a body, he takes a man.

Im sure data geeks could show Mykolenko was closer to Grealish all game than O'Brien to Dibling.

The truth is, we need full backs. As we have for... 4 years?

Shame that we had several today who could have played fullback instead of our two lampposts…

 

[ValBlue]

Look, you can point out that he didn't have support going forward and that's fair. But there was no effort out there today, no closing down no nothing. Any time he had the ball he passed backwards. It was poor performance.

True

 

[yakublue]

Look, you can point out that he didn't have support going forward and that's fair. But there was no effort out there today, no closing down no nothing. Any time he had the ball he passed backwards. It was poor performance.

Also got pushed off the ball a few times and didn’t show enough fight

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

A player standing within a clear passing range of 5-15 yards is a passing option.

Doesnt matter if its a one legged man.

Grealish imo had that today and the defenders saw that and adjusted their positions to cover for the pass im sure.

Dibling had nothing. No support.

Exactly. Myko tries to overlap every time, knowing full well he will only be give the ball in an absolute catastrophic emergency. He is told to run because they simply have to track him, they have no choice, thus taking the double team off our most creative player. It’s so basic, and probably very tiring, but makes a massive difference. Dibling has nothing at all. He isn’t getting past 2, so just passes backwards or inside.

That said, he does not have the body language of a player our fans will forgive. I’ve no issue with him repeatedly taking on his full back and mostly losing it, but now and again getting to the goal line or cutting inside and shooting. One of our sub keepers is capable doing the role he is currently doing, and would at least win some headers.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

This is exactly the problem I’m having. Are we really using ‘how far away was Mykolenko’ as a judgement of how good he was?

Why do we need to measure the distance between Myko and Grealish to see that O’Brien was often 30 yards away from Dibling? You don’t, both are bad.

I’m sure Myko was closer on average (wow, amazing), but I reckon Myko got beyond Grealish as many times as OBrien got beyond Dibling. We don’t need to be finding irrelevant ‘wins’ in Mykolenko’s performance to also acknowledge that Dibling has absolutely no support either.

Dibling is being hung out to dry, but let’s not pretend that Grealish has loads of support on the other side though because he blatantly doesn’t. He’s just experienced enough to work in spite of that, Dibling will hopefully get there.

A judgement of how good who was?

The point was a hopeful simple one. Dibling, like Grealish would benefit from supporting fullback which we lack of any description.

Grealish has won lot as a £100m player. He's probably better suited to coping, but even he had a full back, a body that was closer than Dibling had.

I think players like them both, who lack pace and cut in, need bodies around them.

Grealish will miss Dewsbury-Hall.