2025/26 David Moyes

[Kevsleftpeg]

Moyes hasn't changed tactics though

Who told you that? There was excellent summary on YouTube of how Moyes immediately improved us last season by pushing Myko further forward and having JOB as a third centre back. I don't recall us doing that when he was here last time. We have also changed tactics this season with Grealish and KDH playing. But because Moyes isn't from Austria you're convinced he must be a dour regressive manager.

 

[Neiler]

I'm not sure that's actually true though. I was saying to someone the other day, Baines did come straight into the team and did well but he couldn't get back in after he'd missed a couple of months with injury and Lescott had been doing well in his absence. Jagielka started 40 games in his first season, he wasn't the first name on the teamsheet like he became later but he wasn't really bedded in slowly. Arteta went straight into the team and very very quickly became a fan favourite, there was mass hysteria in the summer we signed him permanently because there were rumours we couldn't afford his wages, and he was player of the season and players player of the season in his first year.

Disagree.

All were in and out of the team and took a while for Jags to get a game as a centre half and struggled when he did, Arteta was in and out or subbed early and didnt impact significantly in the initial loan spell despite flashes, Baines and Lescott we know.

But hey narrative identification and all that - own your truth, i dont mind.

Certainly believe there is a comparative reference point in adjustment from then and now.

 

[Swartzy]

Merson put out a good point yesterday ( I know it surprised me too ) but him and than Sidwell later
Both said if you swapped Beto for Haaland on saturday and we win the game.

 

[matty1878]

If recent history across the league shows us anything it's that you now, because of PSR, have to build gradually and make some gambles on younger players if you aren't currently in the top 6.

We need at least 4 windows of solid recruitment to resolve the issues we had. Some of those will be ready now players who we invest money in and others will have to be high ceiling types who take time to settle in.

My worry with Moyes is how he handles the transition between players as he tends to favour experience over youth and in my opinion, sometimes delays the 'blooding' of youngsters for too long in favour of loyalty towards steady hands.

Hes a solid enough manager for now while we transition, but he's cautious and risk averse and that unfortunately won't cut it long term.

it’s about here and now mate with something to build on

 

[matty1878]

or any cups

 

[jazzy]

Merson put out a good point yesterday ( I know it surprised me too ) but him and than Sidwell later
Both said if you swapped Beto for Haaland on saturday and we win the game.

FFS it doesn't need a football genius to work that one out.

One player can't stop scoring and the other ones got his boots on the wrong feet.

I'd go further and say if Haaland played for us we would finish in the top 4 , he's that good . We are only a couple of really decent players away from being competitive at the upper end of the table unfortunately those players either cost too much or wouldn't want to come here.

 

[Curtis]

Straw man argument no one is just moaning because we didn't beat Liverpool and City! People are however moaning because they don't feel that we should have re-appointed the longest serving Everton manager to never win a trophy, and that he's too conservative and cautious as can be seen by his away record to clubs like City and Liverpool. Plus he made a mess of the summer transfer window.

You ever think working with a sparse budget for over a decade would affect Moyes's chances of winning a trophy, especially competing against clubs that had squads that financially dwarfed Everton at the time? Context is crucial

 

[Exeter_Gently]

You ever think working with a sparse budget for over a decade would affect Moyes's chances of winning a trophy, especially competing against clubs that had squads that financially dwarfed Everton at the time? Context is crucial

That type of critical thinking is thin on the ground these days,Kind Sir.

How are you anyway pal...I trust you are keeping well.

 

[hetion]

Sounds like hurty feelings.

Football fans are world champs at hurty feelings. You only need to clock how many people booed Lucas Digne and realise thats the sort of mentality a lot of people bring to it.

 

[Swartzy]

FFS it doesn't need a football genius to work that one out.

One player can't stop scoring and the other ones got his boots on the wrong feet.

I'd go further and say if Haaland played for us we would finish in the top 4 , he's that good . We are only a couple of really decent players away from being competitive at the upper end of the table unfortunately those players either cost too much or wouldn't want to come here.

And that reaction was really necessary, of course we know it, but you don't normally have 2 pundits come straight out positively talking about us in that context.

If you want to blow up about a simple but positive post than I feel for you m8.

 

[Neiler]

I'm probably overthinking it but it bothers me in a way that a usual forum disagreement doesn't (who cares). Because it affects the wider impatience of the fanbase and how much time/support we give these young players who will take a bit to settle.

I take comfort in the fact we've been here before mate, been dog dirt relegation perineal and signed and developed players under this manager before to recover the club via an upheaval of player identification and development..

I think there are parallels to the summers of 06 & 07, i think right now is the worst our new signings are going to be.

We're in a transaction & adjustment.

 

[Lanolin]

Disagree.

All were in and out of the team and took a while for Jags to get a game as a centre half and struggled when he did, Arteta was in and out or subbed early and didnt impact significantly in the initial loan spell despite flashes, Baines and Lescott we know.

But hey narrative identification and all that - own your truth, i dont mind.

Certainly believe there is a comparative reference point in adjustment from then and now.

I feel like you've done this before but you can't 'disagree' with facts. Arteta came on as a sub on his debut a few days after signing and then again a week later. He then started the next 10 games that he was available for until the end of season. The only time he went off early was with an injury which kept him out of the next game. Jagielka started 40 games in his first season. Baines had started 9 games for us before the end of October when he got injured, including 7 of the 8 league games he'd been available for. After coming back from injury in the new year he never managed to get his place back. Lescott played in every single one of the 42 games we played in his first season, playing 90 minutes in 39 of them. That's not my truth, it's just the truth.

 

[Neiler]

I feel like you've done this before but you can't 'disagree' with facts. Arteta came on as a sub on his debut a few days after signing and then again a week later. He then started the next 10 games that he was available for until the end of season. The only time he went off early was with an injury which kept him out of the next game. Jagielka started 40 games in his first season. Baines had started 9 games for us before the end of October when he got injured, including 7 of the 8 league games he'd been available for. Lescott played in every single one of the 42 games we played in his first season, playing 90 minutes in 39 of them. That's not my truth, it's just the truth.

If its important to you mate, sure, you're RIGHT!

*But disagree really!

 

[davids]

Exactly, you were the one chasing it, not me..

Think I'm allowed an opinion. Unless you're a new moderator?

 

[davids]

Ever thought that he couldn't from a legal perspective because of stock exchange rules?

He made a video about it, maybe watch it before you carry on making yourself look foolish. He states clearly he kept it secret,even from his children because "he promised Sir Alex"
Truly cringe worthy.