A no win situation

[Harryflashman]

I didn’t hate the line up personally. I think the players that came in really let Moyes down. They ranged from diabolical (McNeil, Travers) to mediocre (Dibling). I think the manager would have expected better.

I think you’ve made a calm and reasoned assessment. The players did underperform , perhaps the wholesale changes impacted . If we’d seen 4 changes I doubt there would be much grumbling here and you surely reduce the chance of a performance like the one we saw .

 

[COYBL25]

I didn’t hate the line up personally. I think the players that came in really let Moyes down. They ranged from diabolical (McNeil, Travers) to mediocre (Dibling). I think the manager would have expected better.

Travers is a real worry for me, if Pickford gets injured it`s very worrying from what we`ve seen so far.

I appreciate Virginia wanted first team footy, but he looked to be a much more solid No 2.

 

[Roger Milla]

Should Moyes have played what everybody thinks was his strongest XI, last night, and Grealish and AN OTHER got injured, being kept out were out for a long period, he would have been slated for playing them. He just can’t win. Accept who we are. We’ve had to live with this for years, and it’s not going to change overnight. We all want success but there’s no guarantee when.

What's the logic here? Don't try and win trophies incase players get injured?

I will feel better in May when we finish 10th instead of 11th because Grealish didn't start last night!

 

[Bilko]

For context, bookies had us down at 18/1 to win the tournament, a roughly 5% chance. The wailing is a bit much.

With respect to you, it's about winning things , I'm lucky , I was around in the eighties.
If you look at the competitions we entered, we're not winning the league, the odds of winning the FA Cup would I imagine be quite high, so the League Cup is the one,as unlikely as you think,was still our best bet for a trophy and so imo ,was where we should be playing our strongest squad.

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

It's not like we were playing a bunch of League 2 grocks is it where you can rest the majority of the team and still be okay

It was another Premier League team. With a week until the next game against an atrocious West Ham. Play your best eleven.

 

[barneygumble]

The fact the winner gets 100K says it all. It’s just a weird tournament that seems totally out of its time.

Why bother supporting us then?

Genuinely? No trophies for 30 years and you're being fussy?

Weve never won it in our history, I'd have loved to have had a crack at it.

 

[MisterJ]

I didn't hate the line up, but I'm tired of us not raking the league cup seriously every season.

I want to see us win something again

 

[Harryflashman]

Why bother supporting us then?

Genuinely? No trophies for 30 years and you're being fussy?

Weve never won it in our history, I'd have loved to have had a crack at it.

If the prize money was a £1m fine I’d still want to win it , I liked it when we used to win things . It made me happy

 

[Neiler]

Travers is a real worry for me, if Pickford gets injured it`s very worrying from what we`ve seen so far.

I appreciate Virginia wanted first team footy, but he looked to be a much more solid No 2.

The club had a year option on him they didn’t take up mate.

 

[barneygumble]

If the prize money was a £1m fine I’d still want to win it , I liked it when we used to win things . It made me happy

What's that like?

Must have been nice

 

[Neiler]

Can only imagine how Wolves fans feel after making 8 changes last night, must be fuming.

 

[barneygumble]

The club had a year option on him the didn’t take up mate.

I thought he turned it down for 1st team football, and now hes starting for Sporting.

Worked out nicely for him, regardless. Been spoiled with him, as a backup.

 

[Neiler]

I thought he turned it down for 1st team football, and now hes starting for Sporting.

Worked out nicely for him, regardless. Been spoiled with him, as a backup.

My understanding mate is the club had a one year option to extend his existing deal mate and choose not to.

 

[adi dassler]

You’re just framing it on a completely false premise for some reason. Nobody would have complained if we’d picked our strongest team and somebody got injured, that's just how football works and we all understand it.

I do think it’s worth pointing out again though that there is a big middle ground between putting out your best team and doing what we did last night, which is basically put out a reserve team. Shaking it up by giving starts to a couple of those who are closest to the first team would have been fine, changing the line up to the point that it’s completely unrecognisable and all balance and chemistry is gone wasn’t.

Bang on this.

At what point did Moyes think taking out our entire front 4 and replacing them with players who've never played a match together was a good idea?

We beat these less than a month ago, they had a half empty stadium and their confidence was rock bottom. They must have got a massive boost when they seen our team sheet.

Moyes has done lots good since returning but that last night was unforgivable.

 

[Bluewolf]

Should Moyes have played what everybody thinks was his strongest XI, last night, and Grealish and AN OTHER got injured, being kept out were out for a long period, he would have been slated for playing them. He just can’t win. Accept who we are. We’ve had to live with this for years, and it’s not going to change overnight. We all want success but there’s no guarantee when.

No, because what he could of done/should of done was make 2-3 changes win the match and make 5 subs 60-70 minutes easy win and easy day. If some one gets injured they get injured its football it happens.

What actually ended up happening was we had to sub our best players on against a team desperate for a win who were winning. So our best players had to start playing twice as hard to try to get us back into it. Against a team who were happy to kick chunks out of us in order to hold on to their lead.

Which put our players more in danger of getting injured imo.