Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Paul Rideout]

We can, at a push, manage with Beto and Barry. In an emergency Ndiaye can fill in up top. Not ideal, but, we've a lot of positions we need to cover before a third choice striker.

I agree and tbh I’d rather we went with Tony Hibbert up front than with Callum Wilson, but someone else threw that Millwall lad in the mix and I think you could sell him the dream of ‘this is a great chance for you’, wouldn’t cost the earth AND gives us a slightly different profile.

If only there was a latter years Jermaine Defoe-type out there…

 

[goldfinchmule]

Is there any mulling taking place today

Only in Kintyre.

 

[Eggs]

I appreciate wanting to find optimism, but I'm not sure we're on the front foot. We needed players more than any other club in the league -
Only Crystal Palace, Fulham and Newcastle have signed less.

Moyes will have wanted a few more in by now.

Branthwaite renewal is great, but Alcaraz we had an option on and we've only signed one new player yesterday who there wasn't really any competition for. Let's not be too quick to dish out praise.

….buying the right players is key, I still think 3 more quality individuals in those obvious positions (Winger, CM &RB) makes us stronger than last season.

The unknown is our spend envelope. Sounds like this regime are very stats biased in identifying targets (read a few things about Barry’s ‘numbers’ being exactly what they wanted), for once the rumour mill was right about him. Makes me wonder what ‘numbers’ we’re looking for those other positions, I have a feeling it’ll be high energy and athleticism in CM, speed in wide areas which rules out the likes of McAtee and Hackney.

 

[John from Bootle]

It's a tough one. If Chermiti is going out on loan I think we could do with another option personally. You're only one bad injury away from having no competition or options which isn't ideal. Whether it's an out and out striker or someone who can play across the front I think we probably need someone, but it's obviously not necessarily that easy when you've got as much to do as we have.

I think we definitely need 3 strikers and Chermiti needs football so it's a tricky one. Finding the right calibre to be third choice is difficult. Ideally a young lad with potential like Chermiti is what we need. Don't want us to go down the road of getting somebody like Callum Wilson. A couple of people I know have argued that we'd defo get 10-15 games out of him "which is sound for a third choice." Well, yeah, but that's assuming those 10-15 games he's available for are the exact time when you need to use your back-up. It's no good your back-up being available for 10-15 games if your first and second choice are available for the same games.

 

[toffeeblue9]

I like it when someone says what I think for me.

We have the biggest job on in the league and the speed we are moving has to be concerning, if you don't think it is you're just burying your head.

I agree, but I also don't think the speed we have moved at so far is actually surprising.

We have an entirely new team of people in charge, most of whom are only just through the door, some of them still even being on gardening leave.
Previous targets that we've done background work on under Thelwell and co may now be in the bin or at least the backburner - I make that point because signing players takes ages. We also have the issue that we have to make whatever money we have stretch across up to 10 players - it'll be like doing a jigsaw puzzle. You don't just go out and spend everything you have now and then cross your fingers you get the rest of the ones you need on frees on loans later in the window.

I honestly get the apprehension about the speed, but I think everyone is underestimating the size of the task, not just re the number of players but the work involved in identifying them, convincing them and getting everything done in the budget - it will almost by definition be a long process

 

[Joey66]

Shouldn't be allowed, stirring football fans up!!!

ENN is just newsflashes of the world press articles r,media etc we are linked to everyone but it does state its all rumours - plus other sides are talking to the same player - It just pure speculation they got the Barry transfer correct - but 9 times out of ten it does not come to fruition -

My alarm is whats actually happening - Coleman should have been offered a coaching job he barely played a handful of games last season - & Michael Keen cost of his contract for one season neve heard his offer ? that would have released funds - plus the slowness of why we are not snapping players on ? its all vey slow ....
Almost linked to everyone which is a folly when again it is rumoured we only have £100 million to spend - & the rumours just lead to disappointment, but hopefully DM will get the correct players needed in ?

 

[Eggs]

ENN is just newsflashes of the world press articles r,media etc we are linked to everyone but it does state its all rumours - plus other sides are talking to the same player - It just pure speculation they got the Barry transfer correct - but 9 times out of ten it does not come to fruition -

My alarm is whats actually happening - Coleman should have been offered a coaching job he barely played a handful of games last season - & Michael Keen cost of his contract for one season neve heard his offer ? that would have released funds - plus the slowness of why we are not snapping player on ?
Almost linked to everyone which is a folly when again it is rumoured we only have £100 million to spend - & the rumours just lead to disappointment, but hopefully DM will get the correct players needed in ?

…I’d expect it’s cheaper keeping Keane for a season than acquiring a replacement, one less problem to worry about.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

….buying the right players is key, I still think 3 more quality individuals in those obvious positions (Winger, CM &RB) makes us stronger than last season.

The unknown is our spend envelope. Sounds like this regime are very stats biased in identifying targets (read a few things about Barry’s ‘numbers’ being exactly what they wanted), for once the rumour mill was right about him. Makes me wonder what ‘numbers’ we’re looking for those other positions, I have a feeling it’ll be high energy and athleticism in CM, speed in wide areas which rules out the likes of McAtee and Hackney.

Every player we're linked with scores very high/like top 5% in their league last season on progression. Delap, Doak, Hackney, Barry.

It's not time for panic or even criticism, but I also don't think any praise or claim of being on the front foot is warranted.

 

[Makis]

We will almost certainly loan several players and those won't happen until after pre-season most likely.

 

[Eggs]

We will almost certainly loan several players and those won't happen until after pre-season most likely.

….good point about loans, something I tend to forget about. It’s a market we’ll need to exploit better than we have in recent times, especially if money is tight.

 

[Joey66]

…I’d expect it’s cheaper keeping Keane for a season than acquiring a replacement, one less problem to worry about.

You assume no financial details IMO Bertie Mee was making him look good at Burnley - another scenario was Phillips making Beattie look good - when a CF - when for for £1 million down the road at Crewe - Dean Ashton who played against us in the CUP - I remember Ronnie Goodlass on RM stating we have to sign him .....
Beattie went a season scoring one pen ..... & fans moan about DCL - Beattie he cost us 6 million a big fee back then -

Every club signs bad players - I get that - but lately we have a common trend of loan players being duff.....plus a few signings that have been injured we have no luck ....

 

[toffee66]

We keep craving a pacy, pure right winger but Moyes’ best teams have always played narrow with overlapping fullbacks (one sits, one goes as suits the developing play). Bowen’s early seasons at West Ham saw him play closer to the box than the touchline. Moyes’ occasional forays into true wingers (Shandy and Drenthe) did not go so well. It will be interesting to see where we go at both RM and RB.

 

[BlueStevie35]

I like it when someone says what I think for me.

We have the biggest job on in the league and the speed we are moving has to be concerning, if you don't think it is you're just burying your head.

Can’t speak for anyone else but I’ve got bigger concerns than how quick or slow our transfers dealings are

 

[Davey_g08]

We keep craving a pacy, pure right winger but Moyes’ best teams have always played narrow with overlapping fullbacks (one sits, one goes as suits the developing play). Bowen’s early seasons at West Ham saw him play closer to the box than the touchline. Moyes’ occasional forays into true wingers (Shandy and Drenthe) did not go so well. It will be interesting to see where we go at both RM and RB.

In fairness, Shandy and Drenthe were phenomenal talents. We just didn't do our due diligence on their professionalism.

 

[Lanolin]

….good point about loans, something I tend to forget about. It’s a market we’ll need to exploit better than we have in recent times, especially if money is tight.

I don't think our loans have been too bad generally speaking. Obviously they haven't all been amazing successes but realistically they're not likely to be just because of the type of player who is likely to be available to loan.