2024/25 David Moyes

[windymiller]

Simple fact is, Moyes was not allowed to sign the players he wanted at West Ham. It was constant interfering from the board (Sullivan specifically) and then the appointment of a dodgy DOF who got flushed after wasting huge sums of money which led to Moyes leaving the club.

Moyes flagged players like Eze before they ended up in the Premier League, but they consistently failed to land the players he wanted and instead he was left with players from favoured agents and the like.

Oh here we go, go on then, what's your source for that then?

 

[bicycleheader]

Simple fact is, Moyes was not allowed to sign the players he wanted at West Ham. It was constant interfering from the board (Sullivan specifically) and then the appointment of a dodgy DOF who got flushed after wasting huge sums of money which led to Moyes leaving the club.

Moyes flagged players like Eze before they ended up in the Premier League, but they consistently failed to land the players he wanted and instead he was left with players from favoured agents and the like.

Despite the fact that I really prefer he had never come back, and am still hoping they'll make a change in the summer, I'm actually relatively ambivalent about him staying on as it's just more of the same "meh" feeling that the club's given me for some time. I'll just carry on as is for a bit longer.

However, your amazingly blinkered posts of blind devotion towards him always generate a little burst of thinking .. "Christ, I hope he gets the boot after the last game"

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Oh here we go, go on then, what's your source for that then?

West Ham tensions reach boiling point, Moyes sack development emerges

David Moyes could be on the verge of the sack at West Ham as news of a behind-the-scenes bust-up emerges from East London.

www.westhamzone.com

Eberechi Eze claims West Ham could have got him first and for nothing but passed up the chance

David Moyes was desperate to sign £20 million Eberechi Eze last summer but West Ham United could have got him for nothing. Simon Jordan says...

www.hammers.news

Moyes set to face ‘one one that got away’

David Moyes is set to face Amadou Onana having been a top transfer target for West Ham and Moyes at the start of the 2022/23 season

www.claretandhugh.info

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2020/12/23/moyes-testing-west-ham-owners-patience-as-he-seeks-deal-to-bring-arnautovic-back/

Tarkowski ‘not bitter’ about missing out on West Ham move

The 27-year-old was one of David Moyes’s top targets during the transfer window.

www.standard.co.uk

Etc…

 

[Billy Dean]

See article below, which reflects my concerns:


The Hammers have won just 13 times in the 53 games in all competitions since under Moyes, Julen Lopetegui and now Potter.

There are a host of reasons for the downturn.

The biggest is the poor composition of the squad and transfer dealings.

Now Moyes should hang his head in shame after a startling new West Ham striker revelation.

The Scot will hold a special place in Hammers history for what he did in five years over two spells.

But he was not perfect.

Moyes’ insistence on having a small squad meant West Ham were left with the smallest and second oldest squad in the Premier League when he left.

The Scot failed to make good on promises to build the Hammers around young, hungry players.

So West Ham had to spend big money – over £155m – on a rebuild last summer.

That rebuild somehow made the second oldest squad, the oldest in the top flight.

That has ended up costing Tim Steidten and Lopetegui their jobs.

But it was Moyes’ continual dithering over signing a striker that has set West Ham back more than anything.

Moyes failed West Ham over strikers​

It took him over 18 months to replace Sebastien Haller with Gianluca Scamacca.

When that didn’t work out, ageing Danny Ings was brought in as a panic signing.

Moyes then refused to sign a striker in his last summer window, insisting Jarrod Bowen could do the job.

Some of the deals he turned down are still haunting his old club.

Moyes admitted turning down the chance to sign Julian Alvarez from MLS for just £14.5m before he ended up at Man City.

Despite watching Viktor Gyokeres live multiple times and having him on a platter for just £17.5m, Moyes also turned that deal down.

Now West Ham will be absolutely livid with Moyes.

The Hammers face having to sign at least two, if not three, strikers this summer.

But funds are a problem after the club were forced to stretch spending to bolster the 17-man squad the Scot left behind.

None of this can be true. Moyes is a God.

 

[windymiller]

West Ham tensions reach boiling point, Moyes sack development emerges

David Moyes could be on the verge of the sack at West Ham as news of a behind-the-scenes bust-up emerges from East London.

www.westhamzone.com

Eberechi Eze claims West Ham could have got him first and for nothing but passed up the chance

David Moyes was desperate to sign £20 million Eberechi Eze last summer but West Ham United could have got him for nothing. Simon Jordan says...

www.hammers.news

Moyes set to face ‘one one that got away’

David Moyes is set to face Amadou Onana having been a top transfer target for West Ham and Moyes at the start of the 2022/23 season

www.claretandhugh.info

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2020/12/23/moyes-testing-west-ham-owners-patience-as-he-seeks-deal-to-bring-arnautovic-back/

Tarkowski ‘not bitter’ about missing out on West Ham move

The 27-year-old was one of David Moyes’s top targets during the transfer window.

www.standard.co.uk

Etc…

Literally only the first article of those 5 was about Moyes being overruled by the board. The others were transfers that didn't happen because of finances or players choosing other clubs. I've got a news flash for you, that'll happen here too. It happens at every club, except maybe Man City and Real Madrid.

I know you're all in on the Moyes train, just look at your username, but this whole "everything that goes wrong is despite the manager" and "everything that goes well is because of the manager" is straight out of the Dychette playbook.

 

[MikeH72]

It’s saying that the squad Moyes left wasn’t fit for purpose and was old & they had to spend a lot of money trying to fix it.

Clearly the fact they screwed up fixing it wasn’t Moyes fault.

Does that mean we can blame Dyche for the squad being in such bad shape right now that we have to buy 10 new players in the summer?

 

[st.domingo]

Does that mean we can blame Dyche for the squad being in such bad shape right now that we have to buy 10 new players in the summer?

 

[Lanolin]

See article below, which reflects my concerns:


The Hammers have won just 13 times in the 53 games in all competitions since under Moyes, Julen Lopetegui and now Potter.

There are a host of reasons for the downturn.

The biggest is the poor composition of the squad and transfer dealings.

Now Moyes should hang his head in shame after a startling new West Ham striker revelation.

The Scot will hold a special place in Hammers history for what he did in five years over two spells.

But he was not perfect.

Moyes’ insistence on having a small squad meant West Ham were left with the smallest and second oldest squad in the Premier League when he left.

The Scot failed to make good on promises to build the Hammers around young, hungry players.

So West Ham had to spend big money – over £155m – on a rebuild last summer.

That rebuild somehow made the second oldest squad, the oldest in the top flight.

That has ended up costing Tim Steidten and Lopetegui their jobs.

But it was Moyes’ continual dithering over signing a striker that has set West Ham back more than anything.

Moyes failed West Ham over strikers​

It took him over 18 months to replace Sebastien Haller with Gianluca Scamacca.

When that didn’t work out, ageing Danny Ings was brought in as a panic signing.

Moyes then refused to sign a striker in his last summer window, insisting Jarrod Bowen could do the job.

Some of the deals he turned down are still haunting his old club.

Moyes admitted turning down the chance to sign Julian Alvarez from MLS for just £14.5m before he ended up at Man City.

Despite watching Viktor Gyokeres live multiple times and having him on a platter for just £17.5m, Moyes also turned that deal down.

Now West Ham will be absolutely livid with Moyes.

The Hammers face having to sign at least two, if not three, strikers this summer.

But funds are a problem after the club were forced to stretch spending to bolster the 17-man squad the Scot left behind.

Loads of that is just the sort of made up stuff you get on here where people put their own spin on stuff. I've read that thing about Alvarez and what he actually said was his scout recommended him to him when he was younger and they watched him but decided not to pursue it. He goes on to say that there are dozens of examples of similar players being recommended who don't go on to do anything but the one who does will always be annoying. That then becomes 'he turned down the chance to sign him for this specific fee when all the work had been done by the club'. It's a stupid stick to beat him with.

 

[pfim]

See article below, which reflects my concerns:


The Hammers have won just 13 times in the 53 games in all competitions since under Moyes, Julen Lopetegui and now Potter.

There are a host of reasons for the downturn.

The biggest is the poor composition of the squad and transfer dealings.

Now Moyes should hang his head in shame after a startling new West Ham striker revelation.

The Scot will hold a special place in Hammers history for what he did in five years over two spells.

But he was not perfect.

Moyes’ insistence on having a small squad meant West Ham were left with the smallest and second oldest squad in the Premier League when he left.

The Scot failed to make good on promises to build the Hammers around young, hungry players.

So West Ham had to spend big money – over £155m – on a rebuild last summer.

That rebuild somehow made the second oldest squad, the oldest in the top flight.

That has ended up costing Tim Steidten and Lopetegui their jobs.

But it was Moyes’ continual dithering over signing a striker that has set West Ham back more than anything.

Moyes failed West Ham over strikers​

It took him over 18 months to replace Sebastien Haller with Gianluca Scamacca.

When that didn’t work out, ageing Danny Ings was brought in as a panic signing.

Moyes then refused to sign a striker in his last summer window, insisting Jarrod Bowen could do the job.

Some of the deals he turned down are still haunting his old club.

Moyes admitted turning down the chance to sign Julian Alvarez from MLS for just £14.5m before he ended up at Man City.

Despite watching Viktor Gyokeres live multiple times and having him on a platter for just £17.5m, Moyes also turned that deal down.

Now West Ham will be absolutely livid with Moyes.

The Hammers face having to sign at least two, if not three, strikers this summer.

But funds are a problem after the club were forced to stretch spending to bolster the 17-man squad the Scot left behind.

Who wrote this article? My lord.

Haller wasn't that difficult to replace, he wasn't good for WH.

Jarrod Brown did the job...

Julian Alvarez was never contracted to MLS.

Loads of clubs, including us, could have signed Gyokeres.

They still don't have a striker.

 

[Bluepablo]

Does that mean we can blame Dyche for the squad being in such bad shape right now that we have to buy 10 new players in the summer?

Think you can blame Moshri & Kenwright for the state of the squad now but should be a red flag for those who unquestionably think that Moyes will spend the money available & leave a significantly better squad at the end of his contract in 2 years time.

Something similar to Scamacca, Vlasic & Ward Prowse for £100m puts us right back where we started from.

 

[Neiler]

See article below, which reflects my concerns:


The Hammers have won just 13 times in the 53 games in all competitions since under Moyes, Julen Lopetegui and now Potter.

There are a host of reasons for the downturn.

The biggest is the poor composition of the squad and transfer dealings.

Now Moyes should hang his head in shame after a startling new West Ham striker revelation.

The Scot will hold a special place in Hammers history for what he did in five years over two spells.

But he was not perfect.

Moyes’ insistence on having a small squad meant West Ham were left with the smallest and second oldest squad in the Premier League when he left.

The Scot failed to make good on promises to build the Hammers around young, hungry players.

So West Ham had to spend big money – over £155m – on a rebuild last summer.

That rebuild somehow made the second oldest squad, the oldest in the top flight.

That has ended up costing Tim Steidten and Lopetegui their jobs.

But it was Moyes’ continual dithering over signing a striker that has set West Ham back more than anything.

Moyes failed West Ham over strikers​

It took him over 18 months to replace Sebastien Haller with Gianluca Scamacca.

When that didn’t work out, ageing Danny Ings was brought in as a panic signing.

Moyes then refused to sign a striker in his last summer window, insisting Jarrod Bowen could do the job.

Some of the deals he turned down are still haunting his old club.

Moyes admitted turning down the chance to sign Julian Alvarez from MLS for just £14.5m before he ended up at Man City.

Despite watching Viktor Gyokeres live multiple times and having him on a platter for just £17.5m, Moyes also turned that deal down.

Now West Ham will be absolutely livid with Moyes.

The Hammers face having to sign at least two, if not three, strikers this summer.

But funds are a problem after the club were forced to stretch spending to bolster the 17-man squad the Scot left behind.

Moyes was bang on the money refusing to sign a striker over Bowen - that season he scored 16 PL goals.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, not signing a forward for 50 mill and getting an existing player to score 16 PL goals instead - should be praised rather than criticised.

Imagine if he could do that here with someone from our existing squad......

 

[DualityNSNO]

Moyes was bang on the money refusing to sign a striker over Bowen - that season he scored 16 PL goals.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, not signing a forward for 50 mill and getting an existing player to score 16 PL goals instead - should be praised rather than criticised.

Imagine if he could do that here with someone from our existing squad......

We don't have to - Beto's on almost 10 in 4 or so months.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Literally only the first article of those 5 was about Moyes being overruled by the board. The others were transfers that didn't happen because of finances or players choosing other clubs. I've got a news flash for you, that'll happen here too. It happens at every club, except maybe Man City and Real Madrid.

I know you're all in on the Moyes train, just look at your username, but this whole "everything that goes wrong is despite the manager" and "everything that goes well is because of the manager" is straight out of the Dychette playbook.

That’s a fair enough point. But Allardyce, Pellegrini, Bilic and Lopetegui all had problems with the senior management there. It is a badly run club, which is why Moyes relative success was an anomaly and was doomed to ultimate failure. The issues Moyes had were merely part of a larger pattern of behaviour there.

I mean, Allardyce would turn up for training and find random guys showing up!

Allardyce offers insider view on West Ham's quite incredible transfer strategy

Sam Allardyce has given West Ham fans just a taste of how ridiculous the club’s transfer strategy was during his spell as manager at Upton Park. Speaking to talkSPORT, the former Hammers boss revea…

talksport.com

 

[DL100]

Despite the fact that I really prefer he had never come back, and am still hoping they'll make a change in the summer, I'm actually relatively ambivalent about him staying on as it's just more of the same "meh" feeling that the club's given me for some time. I'll just carry on as is for a bit longer.

However, your amazingly blinkered posts of blind devotion towards him always generate a little burst of thinking .. "Christ, I hope he gets the boot after the last game"

"Despite the fact that I really prefer he had never come back" - There was a strong possibility we would have ben relegated if he hadnt come back

 

[windymiller]

That’s a fair enough point. But Allardyce, Pellegrini, Bilic and Lopetegui all had problems with the senior management there. It is a badly run club, which is why Moyes relative success was an anomaly and was doomed to ultimate failure. The issues Moyes had were merely part of a larger pattern of behaviour there.

I mean, Allardyce would turn up for training and find random guys showing up!

Allardyce offers insider view on West Ham's quite incredible transfer strategy

Sam Allardyce has given West Ham fans just a taste of how ridiculous the club’s transfer strategy was during his spell as manager at Upton Park. Speaking to talkSPORT, the former Hammers boss revea…

talksport.com

Ha ha, yes that's all very Moshiri! Wasn't Iwobi a "present"? Hopefully TFG will be a bit more professional than that.