Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Frenk]

Those I listed were all expensive for us at the time. Out of his ten most expensive signings that list included 6. The other were Fellaini, Yakubu (two most expensive ones), Mirallas and Baines. Jelavic was #11 as well.

Moyes had a couple of really good transfer windows and couple that were poor. You think of the good players he signed but remember he was at the club for 11 years and signed a total of 83 players (including loan players and players signed multiple times). Baines, Arteta, Jagielka, Howard, Pienaar, Cahill, Coleman, Martyn were fantastic signings and there was a number of good signings but plenty of players like McFadden, Straqualursi, Drenthe, Senderos, Jo, Jacobsen, Said, Vellios, Silva, M Gueye, Gosling, Baardsen, Valente, and the ones mentioned above.

I think overall he was successful. When I look through the signings he made based on costs and they are good. For example we paid £1.25 million for McFadden then sold him for £5 million I think. That can’t be considered bad.

 

[mikel_88]

Could that reason be Bowen and Kudus? Who would both start for the majority of teams in the premier league?

I think we'd need to be wary re Ferguson, he really has gone off the boil, but he's still jsut 20 years old. Frightening o think what he was doing a couple of years ago has as a teenager.

If it's £40 mil they're after, we could even go say £25mil guaranteed, but a big chunk of cash if he hits a certain amount of appearances/goals

I would probably go for delap first but going to face big competition for him.

If Ferguson came good for us £40mil could be a steal. If he's on song he has everything.

West Ham are in a bit of state at the minute anyway. If he came here, got an arm round him from Seamus, %0,000 evertonians singing Evan, Evan ferguson when he gets his first goal in front of the South Stand, it coudl all come together

Would like to think that value be alot lower his value has definately dropped even between 20/30 is a risk. Loan with an option would be the move, if 40 mill with him beto and chermitti id still worry about the strikers we have

 

[TyphooToffee]

We knocked enquiries back from City and Arsenal in Jan from Harrison.

So we certainly aren't selling him to Venky Chicken Rovers.

I hope you're right

 

[TyphooToffee]

that’s never happening, if typhoo believes that, what’s he like on April the 1st

On April 1st I'm like a coiled spring

 

[billyblue80]

Its not just a manager involved in or who controls recruitment anymore, probably when Moyes was here the first time its easier to judge his buys, which were mostly good from memory, as he was mostly in control of transfers along with scouts. But at West Ham and with us now it will have been recruitment by committee including other parties like head of recruitment or directors of football, scouts, ceo and owners, so it is very hard to just put who came in at West Ham or comes in here, down to just the manager anymore.

 

[Saint Domingo]

You must be reading things differently than I.

Hits: Baines, Lescott, Distin, Yobo, Jagielka, Pienaar, Howard, Stones, Arteta, Cahill, Martyn, Bent, Coleman.
Misses: Bilyaletdinov, Beattie, van der Meyde, Kroldrup, Heitinga, Jelavic, Wright, Davies, Rodrigo, Valente, Baardsen, McFadden, Gosling, Gueye, Silva, Jutkiewicz, Turner, Vellios, Kennedy.

Fellaini did well but was our most expensive player by that point as well. Yakubu was good for a while, but was our most expensive signing at the time. Johnson likewise, never worth what we paid for him even if he was decent. Mirallas likewise, wasn't bad but never really played well consistently. Oviedo was ok as was Kilbane. People hated Neville but he played a lot in the end so can't call him a miss. Ruddy didn't really get a chance at Everton.

The issue with doing it this way is thers’ll always be a massive list of ‘misses’ for any club, players that arrive on loan or a free transfer and then leave. There’s normally two or three every season for most teams, but the hits arrive once and stay for a very long time so the numbers always look skewed.

I tend to just phase out any squad/emergency loans, backup keepers, cheap young prospects on trial etc. and instead just focus on where a manager spends actual money.

Heitinga was player of the season for us so why is he in the miss column? A very good player who covered Jagielka and Distin excellently, thrived when he started at Cb, and covered CM and RB adequately. Jelavic wasn’t a miss for Moyes, he was phased out unnecessarily early by Martinez when he could have been used as a backup for Lukaku a lot more.

I’d say his significant bad buys were Kroldrup, Van Der Meyde, Simon Davies, and Beattie, maybe Bilyaletdinov at a push although I always thought we didn’t use him correctly. Even then though in comparison to what the rest of the PL were spending these weren’t even big fees. Maybe only Kroldrup’s was at the time for a CB.

Yakubu, Mirallas, Fellaini walk into this current team. One snapped his cruciate and still then bagged 17 at Blackburn. Mirallas was a key player for us under Martinez. Fellaini was sold to United for close to 30 mill and was still a key player for them under numerous managers. I wouldn’t put any of them down as misses.

 

[billyblue80]

Our number one priority should be a fast right winger who scores goals, then a striker, then a midfielder who can dictate and get up and down then a left back who can deliver a ball. Other positions can be filled with loans or frees.

 

[TyphooToffee]

Depends where you get your news. I'd advise against the brexiteer in the pub though

Newsnow, mostly.

 

[billyblue80]

Well, my point was simple. This;



... You then waded in, claiming 80% of his transfers at West Ham improve us, and acting as though we've been operating in a similar capacity the past 5 years on expenditure. I disagree, significantly, with both of your points.

To conclude my point then - I don't think David Moyes bought well with £500m worth of expenditure at West Ham;

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From the top 20, at those fees - I'd take Bowen, and Kudus. I can see why Thelwell really wanted Kudus, but we couldn't get him on loan because Man Utd signed Antony. If we had been able to spend, he'd be here now. As would Minteh, and plenty of others who are much better than that list at West Ham.

So no,, I wouldn't want our next 5 years to replicate West Ham's last 5. Absolutely not.

We shouldn't be benchmarking Everton on the last 5 years of Everton, either.

Whilst he will have had a say, David Moyes wasn't the ONLY one who bought those players. West Ham have a director of football, scouts and owners all will have influenced that list. Also maybe not every player West Ham brought in was a hit, but West Ham finished in europe a few times and won a pot in his time there.

 

[Goat]

IT doesnt matter what Moyes did in 2005 for Everton or even 2020 for West Ham(cba checking when he was there), it only matters what he and the recruitment team do in 2025 for Everton.

Thats my view anyway.

You are all happy to deep dive into his past transfer dealings, but you would lose.

He signed Mikel Arteta for 2m, Tim Cahill for 1.5m, Leighton Baines and Jags for about 12m, combined.

So feel free to find me a manager who has ever done that.

 

[Curtis]

You must be reading things differently than I.

Hits: Baines, Lescott, Distin, Yobo, Jagielka, Pienaar, Howard, Stones, Arteta, Cahill, Martyn, Bent, Coleman.
Misses: Bilyaletdinov, Beattie, van der Meyde, Kroldrup, Heitinga, Jelavic, Wright, Davies, Rodrigo, Valente, Baardsen, McFadden, Gosling, Gueye, Silva, Jutkiewicz, Turner, Vellios, Kennedy.

Fellaini did well but was our most expensive player by that point as well. Yakubu was good for a while, but was our most expensive signing at the time. Johnson likewise, never worth what we paid for him even if he was decent. Mirallas likewise, wasn't bad but never really played well consistently. Oviedo was ok as was Kilbane. People hated Neville but he played a lot in the end so can't call him a miss. Ruddy didn't really get a chance at Everton.

Jelavic was a miss??? he scored like 9 goals in a half season , 7 in his second season and he was sold to hull during a lackluster season for 6.5 million when we bought him for 5. You're really good at this transfer assessment stuff ...

 

[billyblue80]

Exactly more interested in who we recruit this summer than who West Ham bought or who he bought during his first stint.

 

[Goat]

But to add, if he was ever given 500m here at Everton, I would cry if he built that West Ham squad with it.

But, it must be said, he achieved his goal, which im sure was to qualify for Europe and win a trophy.

So whilst im sure West Ham regret what they are left with, I doubt they cared when on a European tour.

But again, he needs to spend the money here better than he did at West Ham.

 

[billyblue80]

But to add, if he was ever given 500m here at Everton, I would cry if he built that West Ham squad with it.

But, it must be said, he achieved his goal, which im sure was to qualify for Europe and win a trophy.

So whilst im sure West Ham regret what they are left with, I doubt they cared when on a European tour.

But again, he needs to spend the money here better than he did at West Ham.

He also developed Rice into a 100m player

 

[preposterousvelios]

No chance we sell Armstrong, doesn't make any kind of sense.