Ultimate bottlers (all moaning here)

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Your lying. At the moment we are awful.

We are happy to reach wembley and have a day out and float around challenging for europe every season or 2.

We lack pace, other than pienaar and now jelavic there is no attacking intent in our team. Coleman is not good enough, Gueye is poor and Cahill is non existant in games.
Howard, Neville, Distin, Jagielka, Osman, Cahill are all ageing and all need replacing.

When it comes down to winning games that actually matter, such as teams lower in the league and taking three points of them we have little inspiration and are easy to defend against.
 

PabloEFC said:
Your lying. At the moment we are awful.

We are happy to reach wembley and have a day out and float around challenging for europe every season or 2.

We lack pace, other than pienaar and now jelavic there is no attacking intent in our team. Coleman is not good enough, Gueye is poor and Cahill is non existant in games.
Howard, Neville, Distin, Jagielka, Osman, Cahill are all ageing and all need replacing.

When it comes down to winning games that actually matter, such as teams lower in the league and taking three points of them we have little inspiration and are easy to defend against.
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I think Gueye will do fine. He had a poor match against Liverpool but he's been good.

Howard is fine as age isn't as big a deal with that position. Jags and Ossie are fine.

I think the two that need more immediate attention are Neville and Cahill.
 
TX Bill said:
I think Gueye will do fine. He had a poor match against Liverpool but he's been good.

Howard is fine as age isn't as big a deal with that position. Jags and Ossie are fine.

I think the two that need more immediate attention are Neville and Cahill.
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Gueye concerns me because he lacks pace, so his natural position would be at CAM, but with Barkley coming through to replace Osman i can't see Moyes playing him there. Hopefully we can sort him out anyway because he seems to have a good attitude, he just runs in slow motion.
 
You seem so convinced that Barkley is going to be a good player, there is no evidence of this yet. He is being talked up but nothing as yet and Moyes can't see that much in him as he's not near the team lately.
Gueye is poor and will not last at this club much longer.
Nothing will change for a long time until we gain investment, Pienaar is not ours, Donovan is old and only a stop gap if he does ever sign for us and how long is it before a top club comes in for Fellaini and we can't say no?
We are now a small club with no power in the transfer market who are just happy to stay at a average level.
 
PabloEFC said:
You seem so convinced that Barkley is going to be a good player, there is no evidence of this yet. He is being talked up but nothing as yet and Moyes can't see that much in him as he's not near the team lately.
Gueye is poor and will not last at this club much longer.
Nothing will change for a long time until we gain investment, Pienaar is not ours, Donovan is old and only a stop gap if he does ever sign for us and how long is it before a top club comes in for Fellaini and we can't say no?
We are now a small club with no power in the transfer market who are just happy to stay at a average level.
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There is. He dominated games in preseason and didn't look at all out of place against Premier League sides earlier this season despite being just 17. As long as there are no bad injury problems and he gets the right coaching I can see him being an England international within 3 or 4 years and being one of the top talents in the league. Whether that's at Everton or not I don't know.

Sadly, though, the rest of your post is the disappointing truth.
 

PabloEFC said:
You seem so convinced that Barkley is going to be a good player, there is no evidence of this yet. He is being talked up but nothing as yet and Moyes can't see that much in him as he's not near the team lately.
Gueye is poor and will not last at this club much longer.
Nothing will change for a long time until we gain investment, Pienaar is not ours, Donovan is old and only a stop gap if he does ever sign for us and how long is it before a top club comes in for Fellaini and we can't say no?
We are now a small club with no power in the transfer market who are just happy to stay at a average level.
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No evidence that Barkley is a good player ? I'm guessing you haven't seen him play, or listened to the testimony of people who have watched him train at Finch Farm and say he is unplayable.

'He's young but he'll be one of the best players we'll ever see in this country' - Martin Keown

The Pienaar deal is practically done according to LCAB, and i have zero reason to doubt his word. Common sense would also tell you that he obviously wants to come here and Spurs clearly don't want and cannot afford a 75k per week squad player when they need to find massive money to tie down Modric and others this summer.

Fellaini has just signed a 5 year deal, he won't be going anywhere for at least a year and to be honest there has been no concrete interest from anybody thus far, despite us all thinking he's the business.

Gueye is anything but poor. He's a 21 year old who assisted 2 goals and scored one himself against West Brom the other week, and he was good against Sunderland in what was at the time the biggest game of his career. He had a poor showing at Wembley, but he is not the first and will certainly not be the last young player to struggle with that much pressure. Calling him poor already is jumping the gun massively.

I struggle to see how you actually watch us play.
 
He may well become a top player, but to put him in our starting line up now and say he is part of a team right now that is ready to challenge for the top 5 is incorrect.
If true i'm made up the Pienaar deal is done but again he isnt the youngest and the fact that your saying 'fellaini wont leave for a season' what club that wants to progress and do well thinks like that?! Him and Rodwell could be one of the better partnerships in the premier league for the next decade, but we think its okay because hes signed a 5 year deal and will stay for at least another season.
As for Gueye, he is not a good player at all, no link up play with Baines at all. Only thing he does do is put a good cross in but he never gets the space or time to put them in against better teams and is not a good enough player in general.
 
Were doomed under current management,board,certain players who can't do it when it really matters eg,semi finals,derbys,finals,****house tacticts,create ****house performances.
 

Koff snods,we lost to one of worst livpoo sides for years,Sunday league goalie and we have 1goal start still can't win,he hs got and given players an inferiority complex when it comes to derby games or so called better teams,it eems its little old Everton,negative man!
Tactics,formation,personnel cost us,again.
 
We could take a lesson from Wigan last night to be honest, was interesting hearing Martinez after the game talking about players recogniseing phases in the game and playing accordingly, was very immpressive 2-0 up after 15 mins and yet they were able to hold Arsenal for 80 mins at home.
 
Neiler said:
We could take a lesson from Wigan last night to be honest, was interesting hearing Martinez after the game talking about players recogniseing phases in the game and playing accordingly, was very immpressive 2-0 up after 15 mins and yet they were able to hold Arsenal for 80 mins at home.
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And made chances of their own playing good football. If that was us, we would of had howard hoofing back to arsenal every time he touched it.
 

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