2024/25 David Moyes

100%, we're getting our boring end of season, but we deserve it after the last three seasons and fans deserve to enjoy Goodison.

Be nice as well to bit of development work like to see Chermitti, Charly, Tim and Broja get mins with no stress on results.
I'd definitely like to see Chermiti up top with Charly behind at some point.
 

Moyes has undeniably done very well , I only question the hunger he has that go for 3 points when it’s all square and to gamble making changes for 3 points. The really top level managers would have made changes earlier last night to go for the win ? Maybe I’m being too harsh
The really top level managers also tend to have a much bigger squad talent wise. Even if that squad is ravaged by injuries. A point away at Wolves does it for me tbh.
 
Maybe. But I think he was right when he said Wolves have been playing well recently. I thought they looked good last night, especially first half. I’ll take a point personally
So would I. And if this was under Dyche, everyone would be applauding the resilience of seeing it out and getting a point. Under Dyche everyone in here would have snapped everyone’s hands off for a point away from home against a team fighting for their lives (as we also would have been).

Moyes literally talked about being disappointed in not having had more out of the last 3. Not sure what people want from him when he has Harrison, lindstrom, Doucoure and a Beto that everyone had written off 8 weeks ago, as his forward line.

Under the last manager, would we have even got a point yesterday? We would have had Young being rinsed all game at right back, and hoofed long balls up to Beto all night.

I agree with Moyes, they were the better team but we showed a resilience that we didn’t have 2 months ago to come away with a point away from home.
 
Survival is practically secured after 2 months...we could have only dreamt of that the start of December.

Massive work to be done in the summer, everyone knows this but for now let's relax and enjoy it.

I will be forever grateful to Moyes for not having to worry about Premier League survival in our last few Goodison games.

Imagine going into that last few home games at GP still fighting for our lives,makes me feel sick thinking about it.

Jep, very grateful for that, we'll finish somewhere between 11th and 16th and have no Burnley at home feelings against Southampton or Ipswich, we should win these of course, but we're not damned to do so.

The good thing is also the squad planning considering there are lots of changes incoming and I hope we'll have a few players in already ready by the training's start.

We'll have another month, haven't to consider a 2 league planning and are in a way better position of getting players in like maybe Angel Gomes or Walker Peters, even
 

Support your Manager.

I support Moyes in the sense that hels come in and dispelled all relegation worries.

Ild prefer if he just slung his hook now though.

If he didn't then I wouldn't grumble too much but Ild still ;point out his negative DNA at defining points within matches.

Always has and always will shirk the big decision that calls for boldness in favour of a more conservative approach.
 
I support Moyes in the sense that hels come in and dispelled all relegation worries.

Ild prefer if he just slung his hook now though.

If he didn't then I wouldn't grumble too much but Ild still ;point out his negative DNA at defining points within matches.

Always has and always will shirk the big decision that calls for boldness in favour of a more conservative approach.
Sound.

Support your manager and football club.
 
Moyes might just be taking a common sense approach.

Seems like quite a precious group of players who need a lot of arms round the shoulder. I’m not really expecting Moyes to come out and say we’ve missed an opportunity, he might feel he needs to keep the players in a good mood until we’re safe. He’s been far harsher on much better players in the past at Everton.

Beto, Doucoure, Harrison, Lindstrom, Patterson Keane OBrien Calvert Lewin all seem to need the arm round the shoulder to play better.

I can’t imagine Howard Cahill Carsley Jagielka Gravesen Pienaar Fellaini needed that. He’d give them down the banks then you’d get a response the next game. I’m just not sure there’s much point doing that with these players until we’re safe.

He probably sees Tarkowski Mykolenko Pickford Gana Garner Branthwaite as more akin to the mentality of his previous squads
 

Moyes has undeniably done very well , I only question the hunger he has that go for 3 points when it’s all square and to gamble making changes for 3 points. The really top level managers would have made changes earlier last night to go for the win ? Maybe I’m being too harsh
Over his career that is definitely true. He is a cautious manager. A point away for him is a good result (speaking generally here, not yesterday's game). He took that same mentality when he went to United which alienated the like of Rio Ferdinand.

The bald fella across the park, yesterday he didn't like what he was seeing, made three changes at half time and boom. Moyes would have waited another 25 minutes before doing anything. Fergie was also very proactive and would chuck on extra forwards. This cautiousness from Moyes was the biggest cultural shock for the United players when he took over. They went from a front foot manager who focused on his team, to a more defensive one who focused a lot on the opposition.
 
Over his career that is definitely true. He is a cautious manager. A point away for him is a good result (speaking generally here, not yesterday's game). He took that same mentality when he went to United which alienated the like of Rio Ferdinand.

The bald fella across the park, yesterday he didn't like what he was seeing, made three changes at half time and boom. Moyes would have waited another 25 minutes before doing anything. Fergie was also very proactive and would chuck on extra forwards. This cautiousness from Moyes was the biggest cultural shock for the United players when he took over. They went from a front foot manager who focused on his team, to a more defensive one who focused a lot on the opposition.
If you’ve got hundreds of millions pounds worth of attacking talent on the bench, making changes isn’t brave, it’s common sense. If you have limited quality on the bench, NOT making early changes becomes common sense.
 
If you’ve got hundreds of millions pounds worth of attacking talent on the bench, making changes isn’t brave, it’s common sense. If you have limited quality on the bench, NOT making early changes becomes common sense.

Which is the argument I’ve been making for many Everton hangers.

Give them squads as good as Slot’s and Guardiola’s and if they’re still playing defensive safety first football then it’s fair enough to criticise.

When we’re asking them to dominate teams away from home and go for the throat and give them Beto and Doucoure to do it, it’s not going to happen regularly.
 
Moyes might just be taking a common sense approach.

Seems like quite a precious group of players who need a lot of arms round the shoulder. I’m not really expecting Moyes to come out and say we’ve missed an opportunity, he might feel he needs to keep the players in a good mood until we’re safe. He’s been far harsher on much better players in the past at Everton.

Beto, Doucoure, Harrison, Lindstrom, Patterson Keane OBrien Calvert Lewin all seem to need the arm round the shoulder to play better.

I can’t imagine Howard Cahill Carsley Jagielka Gravesen Pienaar Fellaini needed that. He’d give them down the banks then you’d get a response the next game. I’m just not sure there’s much point doing that with these players until we’re safe.

He probably sees Tarkowski Mykolenko Pickford Gana Garner Branthwaite as more akin to the mentality of his previous squads

Mykolenko seems like the most timid wet fart going :lol:
 

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