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[Goat]

You voted for a party that

• stood aside when the Gazans were faced with genocide - actually their leader backed the Israelis in their genocide.
• took £300 off pensioners for winter fuel bills
• reneged on their promised support for WASPI women and their cause for a just outcome to their pension settlement
• refused to scrap the two child family tax limit which keeps millions of low income families in poverty
• will put 100,000 physically and mentally incapable for work individuals back in the jobseeker category and take thousands of pounds off them per year by doing so

Just 'kin own THAT, never mind 'voted for the lesser evil' bollocks.

Ok.

The Tories murdered hundreds of thousands of people during covid, your mate Maggie sold all the countries assets, but thankfully shes now in the mud and Starmers at the wheel.

Ive owned it.

Now you.

 

[Amw79]

Wait'll you see what happens next month when they announce that they're throwing 100,000 claimants of UC health benefits and PIP back into the world of job seeking and stopping their extra benefits they're entitled to. They are an evil shower of turds just like the other Tories.




BTW if this was a real LP they'd have got their hands on the levers of taxation and really pulled down hard on them. That's called wealth redistribution and it's been a feature of Labour Governments.

Yeah, they have done, and will do, stuff that you (and I) don’t agree with.

But generating revenue for services via taxes on employers, rather than employees, is as textbook a Labour policy as it comes, and certainly not a policy the Tories would have introduced, ergo, they are ideologically different parties.

 

[davek]

Ok.

The Tories murdered hundreds of thousands of people during covid, your mate Maggie sold all the countries assets, but thankfully shes now in the mud and Starmers at the wheel.

Ive owned it.

Now you.

You do know you dont have to vote for any of these specious turds dont you?

To hear you talk you'd think you were compelled to vote. You're not.

If there's no decent candidates dont vote.

I had a good lad in our constituency for the Workers Party. You had that Kopite freeloading scumbag Alison McGovern...and you handed her your vote and she gets 140k per year as a cabinet minister and she laughs behind her back at you and the rest of the tunnel rats.

 

[Goat]

You do know you dont have to vote for any of these specious turds dont you?

To hear you talk you'd think you were compelled to vote. You're not.

In order to not get Tories, I need to vote for not Tories.

You understand how elections work right?

Anyway, final word, cos you aren't a well man.

I don't care what Labour do, I simply couldn't care less, I voted to remove the Tories.

You know why, do I have regrets, no, will I ever have regrets, no.

Will I vote Labour in the next election, yes.

The end.

 

[davek]

Yeah, they have done, and will do, stuff that you (and I) don’t agree with.

But generating revenue for services via taxes on employers, rather than employees, is as textbook a Labour policy as it comes, and certainly not a policy the Tories would have introduced, ergo, they are ideologically different parties.

It inconvenienced small enterprises only. The whole of the business class should have been taxed.

It's gone beyond tax on profits though; there has to be a wealth tax. Any progressive government would do that before they ever battered the old and the sick to save money.

This Starmer Gang are neo-liberal monsters just like the other governments from 1979 onward.

 

[Thomasc]

You voted for a party that

• stood aside when the Gazans were faced with genocide - actually their leader backed the Israelis in their genocide.
• took £300 off pensioners for winter fuel bills
• reneged on their promised support for WASPI women and their cause for a just outcome to their pension settlement
• refused to scrap the two child family tax limit which keeps millions of low income families in poverty
• will put 100,000 physically and mentally incapable for work individuals back in the jobseeker category and take thousands of pounds off them per year by doing so

Just 'kin own THAT, never mind your "I voted for the lesser evil" bollocks.

Gaza - They weren’t in power until last July, plus if they had of voiced their disapproval they would have been accused of being anti semitic etc etc etc…..so basically screwed either way.

WFA - they ballsed up! They should have just taken it off people who genuinely don’t need it. That would have been the correct way to do it. Problem is, self entitled Brits who actually don’t need it but believe it’s an entitlement would still have kicked off.

WASPI women - where’s the money coming from to compensate them? Raise taxes they get attacked again.

End of the day, you could go round in circles offering different views on different topics.

But the facts remain, they followed on from the most corrupt, inept and incompetent government in history and it’s their mess they have inherited. It’s not fixable and the right wing and mouth breathers don’t want them to fix it anyway, as it would mean they are wrong again, just like they’ve been wrong about everything for the last 10 years.

 

[davek]

In order to not get Tories, I need to vote for not Tories.
You understand how elections work right?
Anyway, final word, cos you aren't a well man.
I don't care what Labour do, I simply couldn't care less, I voted to remove the Tories.
You know why, do I have regrets, no, will I ever have regrets, no.
Will I vote Labour in the next election, yes.

The end.

Appalling.

 

[Amw79]

It inconvenienced small enterprises only. The whole of the business class should have been taxed.

It's gone beyond tax on profits though; there has to be a wealth tax. Any progressive government would do that before they ever battered the old and the sick to save money.

This Starmer Gang are neo-liberal monsters just like the other governments from 1979 onward.

The first bit is just flat out untrue.

The rest is stuff you think they should have done.

 

[davek]

Gaza - They weren’t in power until last July, plus if they had of voiced their disapproval they would have been accused of being anti semitic etc etc etc…..so basically screwed either way.

WFA - they ballsed up! They should have just taken it off people who genuinely don’t need it. That would have been the correct way to do it. Problem is, self entitled Brits who actually don’t need it but believe it’s an entitlement would still have kicked off.

WASPI women - where’s the money coming from to compensate them? Raise taxes they get attacked again.

End of the day, you could go round in circles offering different views on different topics.

But the facts remain, they followed on from the most corrupt, inept and incompetent government in history and it’s their mess they have inherited. It’s not fixable and the right wing and mouth breathers don’t want them to fix it anyway, as it would mean they are wrong again, just like they’ve been wrong about everything for the last 10 years.

I'll say this: at least you're willing to be critical.

Just not enough though.

 

[davek]

The first bit is just flat out untrue.

The rest is stuff you think they should have done.

Getting shops and restaurants to comply with minimum wage means nothing to big businesses but everything to small businesses.

 

[Amw79]

Getting shops and restaurants to comply with minimum wage means nothing to big businesses but everything to small businesses.

I was thinking more about the employer NI increase actually, but I take it from the above that you’re against increasing the minimum wage now as well?

 

[davek]

I was thinking more about the employer NI increase actually, but I take it from the above that you’re against increasing the minimum wage now as well?

Nope. I support the NMW and think it should be much higher.

I'm just making the point that it was only the small to medium sized enterprises inconvenienced.

 

[Charro]

Do we need this every single day in this thread?

 

[Goat]

Do we need this every single day in this thread?

Simply put the thread on ignore, then you dont need to read this every single day.

Its crazy to me that you enter the Labour thread and are shocked that people are yet again talking about Labour.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Do we need this every single day in this thread?

boris doesn't have a pedestal to make a show of himself upon currently. This is an ok replacement clown show.