2024/25 David Moyes

[Nealroy]

Wonder if were getting a bit bogged down in his tendancy to play down expectations last time? Personally I always thought he did this because even our best teams in his previous era tended to do better with less pressure. There's plenty of other successful managers taken a similar approach over the years. We got better results when the team felt they were under dogs.

Now you could say that his failing was recruiting a team of players who couldn't handle pressure. That might be fair. But was that characteristic a symptom of the fact we were actively trying to recruit players who were under rated by the sky 4 (at the time) or who had slipped through the net somewhere else? Is a whole squad full of over looked, under rated gems with a rock solid John Terry sized winners egos a realistic expectation? We had some winners, but there were others in the squad who were excellent players who tended to choke or lose belief in the biggest moments.

Could he not just have been saying what he thought would get us the best results?

 

[DanB90]

If there's one thing I know about Evertonians, it's that they definitely don't hold grudges.

My dad still has an Emlyn Hughes dartboard.

 

[Milkman]

One thing I will say, the last time I felt like we had any kind of “identity” as a club, was under Moyes.

Careful now, you're flying very close to 'he gets us' there

 

[mightymoyes]

Sounds like he must've been a pretty good manager to choose a username like that?

Not really, tongue in cheek.
Maybe create a new one 'average moyes'

 

[Bryan+]

If there's one thing I know about Evertonians, it's that they definitely don't hold grudges.

I still send Rooney abuse.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I'm not doubting he's a better manager obviously, but to suggest he was better for Everton based on some almost useless PPG data is just plain mental.

He finished, what, 12th? After spending £100m+? I've never understood the reverence most have for him myself.

You sure? Only signing with his finger prints on were Allen and James.
He even said Doucoure wasn’t on his radar nor Godfrey, so I doubt he had much to do with Branthwaite or Nkunku either (even if that Dutch fraud asked him to speak to Branthwaite on the blower)
Besides, I think Ancelloti let us down tbh, the drop off after Xmas was poor (as was his leniency with James) and the way he darted at the first chance with RM was even worse.

All I’m saying is I’m I think he Everton playing better than Moyes ever did, and I’d most certainly take him back over Moyes.
I’m still interested in what measurable way Moyes outperforms Ancellotti as manager of Everton

 

[Bedfordblue]

big question will be who his first signing from Man Utd’s cast offs will be?
Are any of them renown for their pointing ability?

 

[windymiller]

Yeh I'm not really bothered about you in all fairness.

The feeling's mutual. To be honest, I don't think anybody on here really cares what you have to say.

 

[jazzy]

This is a very fair and balanced piece on both Moyes and Dyche, the best I’ve read in a sea of nonsense.

Friedkin Group believes Moyes can stabilise Everton and restore lost values | Andy Hunter

Scot has the experience new owners see as vital to avoid relegation before move to stadium at Bramley-Moore dock

www.theguardian.com

You're right Tony , it's an excellent piece. Fair and accurate

 

[Rich1878]

big question will be who his first signing from Man Utd’s cast offs will be?
Are any of them renown for their pointing ability?

Eriksen

 

[Milkman]

You sure? Only signing with his finger prints on were Allen and James.
He even said Doucoure wasn’t on his radar nor Godfrey, so I doubt he had much to do with Branthwaite or Nkunku either (even if that Dutch fraud asked him to speak to Branthwaite on the blower)
Besides, I think Ancelloti let us down tbh, the drop off after Xmas was poor (as was his leniency with James) and the way he darted at the first chance with RM was even worse.

All I’m saying is I’m I think he Everton playing better than Moyes ever did, and I’d most certainly take him back over Moyes.
I’m still interesting what measurable way Moyes outperforms Ancellotti as manager of Everton managers

I'll just keep it simple and go with a) league positions.

 

[Nymzee]

The feeling's mutual. To be honest, I don't think anybody on here really cares what you have to say.

Now now, you're talking to Rank 8 over here.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Really?

You'll be telling us all he didn't take the piss and offer ten bob for Baines and Fellaini next.

I mean the disgrace story. Someone posted about it last night and how it was never proved

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I'm not doubting he's a better manager obviously, but to suggest he was better for Everton based on some almost useless PPG data is just plain mental.

He finished, what, 12th? After spending £100m+? I've never understood the reverence most have for him myself.

Best thing about Carlo was you got to see how an undoubtedly great manager would do in a less elite environment. The answer was, not much better than everybody else! That said, I guess at the top it really is all about the fine margins.

 

[Bkk Andy]

awful new member you

There seem to be a few knocking about today. Big news does that.