New manager

[Carlito]

I think they're just putting out rumours of Dyche being under scrutiny to keep the fans at bay, in the hope that he'll eventually win a game and let them kick the can down the road.

If they were interested in salvaging the season, they'd have come in guns blazing.

 

[T LEAFE]

i think at this point we would take 1 trophy in 7 years

The Championship?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I think it's fair to say that 'he's better than Dyche' shouldn't be all we're looking for in a manager.

There are many managers out there worse than Sean Dyche. Without him we'd probably have been relegated. His football his boring, but lets not rewrite history.

 

[catcherintherye]

It'd be interesting should a club ever back him through that third year dip actually.

Maybe he starts rubbing people up the wrong way - maybe he recruits or picks players for the short term success so it's not sustainable beyond the initial period. Maybe he starts getting bored and self sabotages to get the next move without even realising he's doing that

I always had a theory, that if Chelsea had held their nerve with him, he could have done what Pep did with City or Ferguson did at United with them. The amount the spent, they've won loads but honestly could have won more.

Chelsea fans I speak to still love him, over and above many of the other outstanding managers they have had.

It's not a pro or anti-Mourinho shout either.

The reality is as well, most coaches are not staying for years. I've seen some people.say we shouldnt get x,y or z as they we shod wait for Thomas Frank in the summer. Aside from the point I'm not sure Frank is that great, you can just hire a manager and replace them in the summer if you want.

So if Mourinho does well for 2 years, and then goes, it's not like this big black mark that it may have been say 20 years ago.

 

[heatmeiser]

I can see that.
Could you imagine if it clicked with Mourinho... lift off! Either that or the whole place would go up in flames! Either way, it wouldn't be boring!

The football certainly would be. Though we're more than used to that

 

[johnjoeefc]

Yeah won utd a cup got Spurs to a cup final they fired him from a day before, got Roma to 2 European finals and won 1.. epic failure

I stand corrected, I was under the impression he was doing worse

 

[Bob the Pole 7]

I think they're just putting out rumours of Dyche being under scrutiny to keep the fans at bay, in the hope that he'll eventually win a game and let them kick the can down the road.

If they were interested in salvaging the season, they'd have come in guns blazing.

Totally agree. I think the transfer rumour as well was very well timed to take the heat off the manager.

 

[Lanolin]

This is true... but 'better than Dyche' is a fairly extensive list right now.

He's not just better than Dyche, he's on another planet than Dyche. Granted, prime Mourinho was a few years back now, but prime Mourinho wouldn't even be in the conversation for our managers job. He's a serial winner, would attract players and would move us up the league. He also cant stand the RS, so he's already more suitable than Dyche before he's stepped foot in the gaff!

He's not a serial winner anymore, that's the entire point being made. He won an absolute shedload of trophies in his first ten years as a manager, but they have massively dried up and his career is on a quite obvious downward curve. I don't want us to appoint Alex Ferguson, Wenger, Van Gaal, Capello, Benitez etc either, despite them being 'serial winners'.

i think at this point we would take 1 trophy in 7 years

Of course would, but our record as a club hasn't really got anything to do with it.

There are many managers out there worse than Sean Dyche. Without him we'd probably have been relegated. His football his boring, but lets not rewrite history.

I have no idea what you're on about, i'm quite often called a Dychette on here I'm not rewriting anything.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

The football certainly would be. Though we're more than used to that

More than winning, FFS.

 

[catcherintherye]

Sacked after failing at united, in two seasons he won't the Europa, the League cup and finished fa cup and league runner up to City, Spurs finished 6th, reached the cup final and was sacked on the eve of it. Roma Won a European pot, reached the final of another, finished in European spots both seasons.

It's funny there's a narrative against certain managers, whom don't speak or say things in the right way. Don't talk of projects or whatever. Like essentially the opposite of your Brendan Rodgers/Martinez type.

The press tend to hate them, probably because they don't give them a lot of time and that filters through. You even get it with Ancelotti, who has won what 5 European cups now, but 99% of the media will have you believe he's an inferior manager to say a Klopp, because Klopp has a great media game.

Anyway Mourinho doesn't really get a fair amount hearing as people love to hate him. United havent come close to where he finished them, and neither frankly had Spurs.

I'm not pro Mourinho, and honestly there's a lot of reasons not to do it though. But for that 18 months we had Ancelotti, you just saw what an elite manager can do.

 

[heatmeiser]

More than winning, FFS.

I'd obviously have him in a heart beat, but you can guarantee the usual suspects on here would be whining about him within weeks

 

[Evertonthat]

He's not a serial winner anymore, that's the entire point being made. He won an absolute shedload of trophies in his first ten years as a manager, but they have massively dried up and his career is on a quite obvious downward curve. I don't want us to appoint Alex Ferguson, Wenger, Van Gaal, Capello, Benitez etc either, despite them being 'serial winners'.

Of course would, but our record as a club hasn't really got anything to do with it.

I have no idea what you're on about, i'm quite often called a Dychette on here I'm not rewriting anything.

Massively dried up? Yet still has a win percentage well over 50% over the last 9 years (was higher before granted). Whats Dyche's? Below 20%?

 

[Drico]

The Championship?

If the alternative you are suggesting is another five years of 17th, 15th, 16th, 17th, and 16th, then, frankly, I'd actually have to consider an alternative that was 17th, 19th, 1st (the Championship), 13th, 10th... especially if it allowed the fans to remember what winning was and if it meant the club could reset and go on an upward trajectory on its return to the top flight.

Frankly, the status quo is pointless - a guarantee of oblivion. Survival is fine...for one season when you know staying up means certain improvement and reset. But how many years are we battling this same Groundhog Day scenario now? I dearly hope we stay up - but if we had a crystal ball and we find that we do indeed stay up only to be in the very same situation in 12 months time, well, then, nah... I've had my fill.

This clubs needs an electric shock. At this point, I'm not sure I care if that shock kills it.

 

[hallamblue]

Mourinho, if he could get the flame burning again, would be perfect for us in some ways. He hates the rs, and football for him is all about passion, which is where we are as a fanbase. However, he can't stop playing safety first football, and we've had Dyche and Benitez recently who both tried that. However, Ancelotti was pretty pragmatic with us as well, so it could work.

 

[Drico]

Mourinho, if he could get the flame burning again, would be perfect for us in some ways. He hates the rs, and football for him is all about passion, which is where we are as a fanbase. However, he can't stop playing safety first football, and we've had Dyche and Benitez recently who both tried that. However, Ancelotti was pretty pragmatic with us as well, so it could work.

He hates the RS. He has a grudge against United. He hates Pep.

We hate ourselves.

He's perfect for us.