2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Ruairi77]

To be fair that’s being generous to us. Our current cruise:

wish we were that exciting!

 

[COYBL25]

Some people seem very happy with what's being served up, it's bizarre, fancy not expecting improvement from the coaching team and vociferously defending it too boot.

Not just defending it, a couple of them are like religious zealots over their defence of him.

It’s quite baffling.

 

[COYBL25]

wish we were that exciting!

We`d stay in the harbour, tucked against a wall, where it was safe.

 

[Ruairi77]

Some people seem very happy with what's being served up, it's bizarre, fancy not expecting improvement from the coaching team and vociferously defending it too boot.

That'll be a generation of 'plucky little Everton' punching above their weight
'what do you expect with a squad of league 1 players'
and other such nonsense.

We have a good squad, one more than capable of finishing mid table while playing football that can actually be watched.

My problem with Dyche is that there's nothing to cling on to, nothing to come away from a game thinking 'that bit was great, we're turning a corner, we'll surely see more of that'.
Any spark of creativity seems to be stifled in 2 or 3 more games.

 

[matty1878]

let’s hope big changes ahead that all positive

that’s all we all want mate

 

[kenada_blue]

Spent more than Liverpool in the Summer, they are currently cruising the Title while we cruise in 15th.

 

[Goat]

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If theres 1 thing ive learnt in all my years on the internet, its this.

You can always find something that fits an agenda.

 

[Saint Domingo]

It very key to separate what Dyche does - manage the side; from what Thelwell does - buy/sell players.

Everton's net spend has NOTHING to do with Sean Dyche.

He’s managed in an environment where a net transfer spend has been occurring year on year and kept the team up.

So writing that he has NOTHING to do with it is a bit ridiculous. If other clubs find themselves in that same position they won’t be picking a manager who needs 100s of millions and his own players to return a points total for safety. They’ll pick a manager who can operate in that fiscal environment.

 

[Marius57]

Not just defending it, a couple of them are like religious zealots over their defence of him.

It’s quite baffling.

Woah, you are massively mistaken there mate.

Despite spending hours a day defending his honour, writing condescending posts, using insults and writing essays about net spend, the most they have ever stretched to saying is they “think he deserves some credit for the job he’s done”.

 

[Blue83]

Going to be interesting now handling press when ownership issue can't be peddled out for poor results.

He can still blame the fans though

 

[Curtis]

It's pure anti football, it used to be that there weren't enough technical players to implement a more passing and offensive type of playing style where we had more than 25% possession but we actually have players who can pass and hold the ball it's more that dyche isn't comfortable implementing a less conservative approach, I know moyes can be defensive but he was balanced and he rarely just put 10 men in front of the goal that's all dyche is doing its not some clever defensive tactics

 

[matty1878]

He’s managed in an environment where a net transfer spend has been occurring year on year and kept the team up.

So writing that he has NOTHING to do with it is a bit ridiculous. If other clubs find themselves in that same position they won’t be picking a manager who needs 100s of millions and his own players to return a points total for safety. They’ll pick a manager who can operate in that fiscal environment.

but if a club needs wins mate and he’s not giving them

the rest is irrelevant

 

[Curtis]

Woah, you are massively mistaken there mate.

Despite spending hours a day defending his honour, writing condescending posts, using insults and writing essays about net spend, the most they have ever stretched to saying is they “think he deserves some credit for the job he’s done”.

Especially how they refer to him like neo from the matrix as he was the chosen one to lead everton from relegation and no one else could motivate players and play ultra defensively

 

[Saint Domingo]

but if a club needs wins mate and he’s not giving them

the rest is irrelevant

Weirdly Matty if you give managers more money for better players they tend to win more no matter how bad they are

If you keep selling their best players and buying rubbish ones they don’t win more.

Maybe Everton can try the first option for a change rather than always asking the manager to improve a load of rubbish players

 

[roy vernon]

Well we’ve gone from no one will employ him to no ambitious clubs will employ him now.

Actually read what I’ve posted on here about Dyche, actually go back and read it without freaking out every time you see something you don’t agree with.

The majority of the time I’m not even praising him. I don’t think I’ve ever said his football is good, I’ve never wanted him as a long term option (an one year extension before the takeover was back on was the most I went to so the players didn’t down tools this season). The most I’ve stretched to is saying I think he deserves some credit for the job he’s done.

You’re inventing this hero worship of him that honestly doesn’t exist on here. No one is calling him a hero, I don’t think there’s anyone left who even wants him here beyond the season.

The situation as I see it though is there’s one extremely vocal group who see any sort of credit for Dyche’s work at all as some sort of personal insult and then accuse the poster who’s given it as being either a super fan or even Sean Dyche himself. It’s truly bizarre.

Point this hero worship out to me anywhere on this thread. It just isn’t there. One group saying he deserves some credit for the job he’s done, another who are getting triggered every time he opens his mouth because they hate him so much. It’s not an even sided debate by any stretch. The centre of discussion has moved so far absurdly to one side that even ridiculous factually inaccurate view points are now seen as a neutral point of view on the manager.

How long was he out of work after Burnley sacked him? He may not be as sought after as you think.