2023/24 Amadou Onana

[Titus Bramble]

Stats, Titus? I am not interested in stats they can prove or disprove anything, I let my eyes tell me what a player does or doesn’t do and Onana doesn’t do enough, there is plenty for him to do in that department——plenty!

Aye, those pesky stats getting in the way of your opinion, eh? I used those stats after your 'He makes as many poor tackles and passes as the good ones' wham because it's simply untrue.

I use stats to add context to what I see on the pitch. We're a better side with him than without IMO. He keeps the ball moving, wins tackles and interceptions and adds an aerial presence to the midfield. Of course there are areas for improvement in him... find me a 22 year old where that isn't the case.

You don't like him, that's fair enough, I just can't work out why.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Aye, those pesky stats getting in the way of your opinion, eh? I used those stats after your 'He makes as many poor tackles and passes as the good ones' wham because it's simply untrue.

I use stats to add context to what I see on the pitch. We're a better side with him than without IMO. He keeps the ball moving, wins tackles and interceptions and adds an aerial presence to the midfield. Of course there are areas for improvement in him... find me a 22 year old where that isn't the case.

You don't like him, that's fair enough, I just can't work out why.

I can see why you think he will be a very good player in the future,I’m more interested in what he does now and I don’t see the player you see, No I don’t think we are a better team with him in it but I see a big difference when Gana Gueye isn’t playing and that applies to Doucoure even with all his faults.

 

[Titus Bramble]

I can see why you think he will be a very good player in the future,I’m more interested in what he does now and I don’t see the player you see, No I don’t think we are a better team with him in it but I see a big difference when Gana Gueye isn’t playing and that applies to Doucoure even with all his faults.

Yea I agree, and it's a big issue... Zero strength in depth. Gana, Doucoure and Onana (in my opinion) when in their favoured positions is probably our best midfield 3. But as soon as one is out, the shuffle around/replacements leave us weaker.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Yea I agree, and it's a big issue... Zero strength in depth. Gana, Doucoure and Onana (in my opinion) when in their favoured positions is probably our best midfield 3. But as soon as one is out, the shuffle around/replacements leave us weaker.

Yes I definitely agree with “ Zero strength in depth” being the problem, as for the best central midfield we all have our favourites to start and being honest I wouldn’t leave James Garner out of the team, can we use one of them in another position?

 

[Simon Buttle]

Yes I definitely agree with “ Zero strength in depth” being the problem, as for the best central midfield we all have our favourites to start and being honest I wouldn’t leave James Garner out of the team, can we use one of them in another position?

I posted these the other day and Garner is the only midfielder who contributes in both phases of play so he has to be in there somewhere imo. No Onana on either list.

 

[Cameron Manning]

I posted these the other day and Garner is the only midfielder who contributes in both phases of play so he has to be in there somewhere imo. No Onana on either list.

Well I have to say Simon, again, that I’m not interested in stats, they really can be used to prove or disprove most things, but I do think all the Everton players mentioned there have played well this season, just using my eyes.

 

[PrekisCrossBarlow!]

I posted these the other day and Garner is the only midfielder who contributes in both phases of play so he has to be in there somewhere imo. No Onana on either list.

Fair point, but Onana's biggest quality for us is his ability to receive the ball deep and progress it up the pitch. We don't have anyone else who can do that well. This wouldn't be reflected in any of those tackling/intercept/chance creation metrics.

 

[Walken]

I posted these the other day and Garner is the only midfielder who contributes in both phases of play so he has to be in there somewhere imo. No Onana on either list.

I appreciate the stats, I think Garner always looks to affect the game he's just struggling a little. He looks far more comfortable with Onana for me.

Obviously though stats are nothing compared to Camerons eyes!

 

[kenada_blue]

I posted these the other day and Garner is the only midfielder who contributes in both phases of play so he has to be in there somewhere imo. No Onana on either list.

Garner is boss. Anyone who knows football can see it

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Fair point, but Onana's biggest quality for us is his ability to receive the ball deep and progress it up the pitch. We don't have anyone else who can do that well. This wouldn't be reflected in any of those tackling/intercept/chance creation metrics.

Exactly this

Exhibit A was our first half at Brighton, when he wasn't on the pitch

 

[Cameron Manning]

Exactly this

Exhibit A was our first half at Brighton, when he wasn't on the pitch

What about that 5-1 win at Brighton when he wasn’t on the pitch until the match was well won?

 

[Carlito]

Is he carrying a knock or something?

I'm forever seeing him linked with moves to all the top sides, but he doesn't appear to be able to get a game for Everton.

 

[Nymzee]

Is he carrying a knock or something?

I'm forever seeing him linked with moves to all the top sides, but he doesn't appear to be able to get a game for Everton.

He's just come back from injury.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

What about that 5-1 win at Brighton when he wasn’t on the pitch until the match was well won?

Are you talking about a one off match, among a collection of dire performances, from 9 months ago?

Huh?

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

He's just come back from injury.

Yeah I'd be very surprised if he doesn't start our next game given that he's built his fitness back up a bit