2022/23 Sean Dyche

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ClaretMunky said:
Burnley fan here. You guys are deep in the [Poor language removed]. Been lurking on this board following the back end of last season due to the relegation dog fight. The way I see it, your leadership are properly inept. Lampard is categorically a bad manager and should have gone prior to the World Cup. He should have not been appointed in the first place. The stadium development is a massive drain and it is appalling timing for you to have cycled through a number of failed managers whilst spraffing money on a mismatch of players. Some of your fanbase are rancid, entitled and toxic. How will you persuade players to come to your club when you are threatening them near the ground? This is a thoroughly bad situation. You are lucky to get Dyche. All the piss taking and snide comments are unwarranted.

He is a proper leader, he gets players to buy into a strong set of core values. Your area and community are not exactly wealthy much the same as East Lancashire. He will demand hard work, he will demand passion, he will demand pride. I never doubted the lads took to the pitch and played for us. I think that meets with Scouse sensibilities pretty well. I know that your ground can be knife-edge in terms of atmosphere. You boo your own way too frequently. I doubt you will boo much under Dyche when he gets them fighting and they will fight for you. Not in the Lampard [Poor language removed] way but in a way that is sustainable because it is embedded in a philosophy. There's plenty of podcasts available with him speaking, he's not a dinosaur.

Dyche was remarkable for us. That first promotion was totally unexpected. We sold a top scorer and acquired a load of tree transfers which when married with some of the left over Howe signings led to a really enjoyable season. We weren't ready and deservedly went down. The second promotion season saw great football. The European qualifying season saw great football. He built us a modern training ground and he brought consistent EPL football with a bunch of cast offs. Our previous facilities weren't usable in winter. You talk about long term and club building and think he can't do it. He's already done it once with money gained by his own success on the pitch.

He talks about mixed football and being a threat. This is not POMO bollocks. He wants crossing, he wants skill, equally he does not mind fight balls. He will work with what he has and get the best from it. Watch the way your back line gets organised and becomes obdurate. Watch the bodies on the line blocks. The defending at times was a thing of beauty. There is more than one way to win at football. Sterile possession is just as dull as neck high [Poor language removed]. Look out for Mercer. He's a goalkeeping coach and is absolutely too notch. He went to Rotherham so not sure if he will turn up but he is outstanding.

Addressing the Kompany situation. Our level is floating between League One and Championship. We've had a good few managers that have allowed us to beat our limitations. Kompany openly admits some of the qualities he has sought to use from Dyche's time. Yes, he has overhauled the style but he has been able to do that using money from the players that Dyche bought. For us to stick in the EPL, every signing needs to go right because we lack financial resources. It is much easier to restart in the Championship using legacy money that is there because of Dyche. I was shocked when he was sacked. I was happy to go down with Dyche and go again. We had a difficult season and you will note there is no unrest from the fans. He'd earnt respect.

To be honest you look hopeless at the minute. If he staved off relegation then it equals some of the feats he managed with us. Get behind him and you will be surprised.
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Grade A content this, thanks for your insight.
 
efcste97 said:
How many times have we said this! The truth is a lot of the players don't deserve a 'clean slate'
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EFC is a business and needs to operate as such. To say the players don't deserve a clean slate is crazy. The players are assets of the club and the club needs to maximise the value of all their assets whether that is retail space in the stadium or players employed by the club. It is the manager's job to maximise the assets he has responsibility for. The players haven't had any consistency of manager or proper coaching for the last few years. Every single player should be given a clean slate and Dyche should be afforded every possibility to get the best from the current squad. If Dyche then decides any players are not good enough for the 1st team squad they should be moved on. Casting players aside now due to previous performances (or lack of) would just be another stupid move by the Board
 
ClaretMunky said:
Burnley fan here. You guys are deep in the [Poor language removed]. Been lurking on this board following the back end of last season due to the relegation dog fight. The way I see it, your leadership are properly inept. Lampard is categorically a bad manager and should have gone prior to the World Cup. He should have not been appointed in the first place. The stadium development is a massive drain and it is appalling timing for you to have cycled through a number of failed managers whilst spraffing money on a mismatch of players. Some of your fanbase are rancid, entitled and toxic. How will you persuade players to come to your club when you are threatening them near the ground? This is a thoroughly bad situation. You are lucky to get Dyche. All the piss taking and snide comments are unwarranted.

He is a proper leader, he gets players to buy into a strong set of core values. Your area and community are not exactly wealthy much the same as East Lancashire. He will demand hard work, he will demand passion, he will demand pride. I never doubted the lads took to the pitch and played for us. I think that meets with Scouse sensibilities pretty well. I know that your ground can be knife-edge in terms of atmosphere. You boo your own way too frequently. I doubt you will boo much under Dyche when he gets them fighting and they will fight for you. Not in the Lampard [Poor language removed] way but in a way that is sustainable because it is embedded in a philosophy. There's plenty of podcasts available with him speaking, he's not a dinosaur.

Dyche was remarkable for us. That first promotion was totally unexpected. We sold a top scorer and acquired a load of tree transfers which when married with some of the left over Howe signings led to a really enjoyable season. We weren't ready and deservedly went down. The second promotion season saw great football. The European qualifying season saw great football. He built us a modern training ground and he brought consistent EPL football with a bunch of cast offs. Our previous facilities weren't usable in winter. You talk about long term and club building and think he can't do it. He's already done it once with money gained by his own success on the pitch.

He talks about mixed football and being a threat. This is not POMO bollocks. He wants crossing, he wants skill, equally he does not mind fight balls. He will work with what he has and get the best from it. Watch the way your back line gets organised and becomes obdurate. Watch the bodies on the line blocks. The defending at times was a thing of beauty. There is more than one way to win at football. Sterile possession is just as dull as neck high [Poor language removed]. Look out for Mercer. He's a goalkeeping coach and is absolutely too notch. He went to Rotherham so not sure if he will turn up but he is outstanding.

Addressing the Kompany situation. Our level is floating between League One and Championship. We've had a good few managers that have allowed us to beat our limitations. Kompany openly admits some of the qualities he has sought to use from Dyche's time. Yes, he has overhauled the style but he has been able to do that using money from the players that Dyche bought. For us to stick in the EPL, every signing needs to go right because we lack financial resources. It is much easier to restart in the Championship using legacy money that is there because of Dyche. I was shocked when he was sacked. I was happy to go down with Dyche and go again. We had a difficult season and you will note there is no unrest from the fans. He'd earnt respect.

To be honest you look hopeless at the minute. If he staved off relegation then it equals some of the feats he managed with us. Get behind him and you will be surprised.
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I guess the key question is did you enjoy watching Burnley under him?
I understand the concerns in some ways and I simply don’t know enough about him as a manager. But I was brought up on fast, skilful teams and I’ve a desire for excitement.
Your points about our fanbase are on point in some ways but the fans who turn up want a team that attacks. They want spirit and to see a unit and they want skill.
 

ClaretMunky said:
Burnley fan here. You guys are deep in the [Poor language removed]. Been lurking on this board following the back end of last season due to the relegation dog fight. The way I see it, your leadership are properly inept. Lampard is categorically a bad manager and should have gone prior to the World Cup. He should have not been appointed in the first place. The stadium development is a massive drain and it is appalling timing for you to have cycled through a number of failed managers whilst spraffing money on a mismatch of players. Some of your fanbase are rancid, entitled and toxic. How will you persuade players to come to your club when you are threatening them near the ground? This is a thoroughly bad situation. You are lucky to get Dyche. All the piss taking and snide comments are unwarranted.

He is a proper leader, he gets players to buy into a strong set of core values. Your area and community are not exactly wealthy much the same as East Lancashire. He will demand hard work, he will demand passion, he will demand pride. I never doubted the lads took to the pitch and played for us. I think that meets with Scouse sensibilities pretty well. I know that your ground can be knife-edge in terms of atmosphere. You boo your own way too frequently. I doubt you will boo much under Dyche when he gets them fighting and they will fight for you. Not in the Lampard [Poor language removed] way but in a way that is sustainable because it is embedded in a philosophy. There's plenty of podcasts available with him speaking, he's not a dinosaur.

Dyche was remarkable for us. That first promotion was totally unexpected. We sold a top scorer and acquired a load of tree transfers which when married with some of the left over Howe signings led to a really enjoyable season. We weren't ready and deservedly went down. The second promotion season saw great football. The European qualifying season saw great football. He built us a modern training ground and he brought consistent EPL football with a bunch of cast offs. Our previous facilities weren't usable in winter. You talk about long term and club building and think he can't do it. He's already done it once with money gained by his own success on the pitch.

He talks about mixed football and being a threat. This is not POMO bollocks. He wants crossing, he wants skill, equally he does not mind fight balls. He will work with what he has and get the best from it. Watch the way your back line gets organised and becomes obdurate. Watch the bodies on the line blocks. The defending at times was a thing of beauty. There is more than one way to win at football. Sterile possession is just as dull as neck high [Poor language removed]. Look out for Mercer. He's a goalkeeping coach and is absolutely too notch. He went to Rotherham so not sure if he will turn up but he is outstanding.

Addressing the Kompany situation. Our level is floating between League One and Championship. We've had a good few managers that have allowed us to beat our limitations. Kompany openly admits some of the qualities he has sought to use from Dyche's time. Yes, he has overhauled the style but he has been able to do that using money from the players that Dyche bought. For us to stick in the EPL, every signing needs to go right because we lack financial resources. It is much easier to restart in the Championship using legacy money that is there because of Dyche. I was shocked when he was sacked. I was happy to go down with Dyche and go again. We had a difficult season and you will note there is no unrest from the fans. He'd earnt respect.

To be honest you look hopeless at the minute. If he staved off relegation then it equals some of the feats he managed with us. Get behind him and you will be surprised.
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Thanks mate. I'm actually quite glad to have him. I honestly think he's in the mould of Moyes and he'll try to get a hard working team with a bit of steel first and foremost.

Which is exactly what we need right now.

Ps do you know Bryan Swan?
 
Thetigerblue said:
I guess the key question is did you enjoy watching Burnley under him?
I understand the concerns in some ways and I simply don’t know enough about him as a manager. But I was brought up on fast, skilful teams and I’ve a desire for excitement.
Your points about our fanbase are on point in some ways but the fans who turn up want a team that attacks. They want spirit and to see a unit and they want skill.
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Right now I think they want survival by any means. This is cart before horse.

You are also setting out stupid expectations for what can be achieved with this squad. If things went cars well as possible, we are seasons away from fielding a team that play well.
 

Villa_Fan said:
EFC is a business and needs to operate as such. To say the players don't deserve a clean slate is crazy. The players are assets of the club and the club needs to maximise the value of all their assets whether that is retail space in the stadium or players employed by the club. It is the manager's job to maximise the assets he has responsibility for. The players haven't had any consistency of manager or proper coaching for the last few years. Every single player should be given a clean slate and Dyche should be afforded every possibility to get the best from the current squad. If Dyche then decides any players are not good enough for the 1st team squad they should be moved on. Casting players aside now due to previous performances (or lack of) would just be another stupid move by the Board
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You may speak sense, but if Elon Musk offered to stick our squad into his suicide mission rocket to the centre of the sun, I'd really be tempted.
 

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