….if he can’t break into this side, I’d give him very little chance of having a future at Everton. Posters on here are obviously seeing something in him which is encouraging. A loan would be an admission of failure.
….if he can’t break into this side, I’d give him very little chance of having a future at Everton. Posters on here are obviously seeing something in him which is encouraging. A loan would be an admission of failure.
Zezti
Player Valuation: £70m
A loan away from this toxic club with terrible managers can be just what a young player needs, too.
See Branthwaite.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Haven't seen enough of him to see or not see something. You are an intelligent bloke, do you think there is more or less pressure on a player when there is the 'first' choice (& second & third) sat on the bench as you are pushed ahead of them because they cannot score? How much we as a fan base would groan if he misses because we should have played Beto or DCL instead. It's a lot of pressure to take and if it wasn't a big deal the others would all be on at least 5 goals by now. Nevermind players we've tried in the recent past like Maupay and Rondon. All experienced players with a track record of scoring that couldn't hit a barn door here.
Generational talents like Rooney come in and say screw the rest, I'll do what they can't. Yes I would love a young player to come in and do that but it's rare especially at a powder keg club like ours lurching from one disaster to the next.
These sort of statements and sentiments might be why our players (especially young ones) have such a hard time finding their feet here...
"I’d give him very little chance of having a future at Everton."
"A loan would be an admission of failure."
….he’s a young pro, he should be relishing the opportunity he has at this club.
Everton1654
Player Valuation: £6m
Honestly don't think I've actually seen him touch the ball yet in any of his appearances
…..just saw a clip of him skipping Branthwaite and scoring in training. Not quite a ‘that’ll do me’ moment but it’s more like it.
DualityNSNO
How much for the pair?
The opportunity of not playing more than 10 min every few weeks. Truly shocking he's not taken it and scored 19 goals this season.
He's played 58 minutes total league football for us, what chances are you talking about here exactly?
….footballers have to earn their game time. I guarantee Dyche would love him to be doing the business.
The only reason he’s not played more is that he’s failed to show the manager and coaches that he’s deserving a place. 58 minutes is a reflection on him more than anybody else, the manager is desparate for an effective striker.
A couple of encouraging signs of late in training.
DualityNSNO
How much for the pair?
Earn it how? Scoring in training, doing his best and sitting on the bench only to play for 2 minutes every 2 weeks.
This is why we have no youth prospects ever, this line of thinking. It's why we're consistently in the lowest ranking for minutes given to young players, and now we've got an even more limited/crap manager to not select them even more.
The only reason he's not played more is that Dyche is a stubborn idiot - "failed to show him", but then explain, please, what Ashley Young shows him? Or Michael Keane?
Utter backwards nonsense.
….ha, ha they will know how good he is in training and they will know how ready he is in training. The U21 watchers on here suggested he was very quiet in his latest appearance (he did score a penalty and another that the keeper bungled).
They’ll be seeing if he causes Tarkowski and co problems in training. They’ll be watching his movement daily in training, how he copes in possession. I remember watching DCL at 19 in an U21 game and posting he’d be in the team in 2 months, which he was. Apparently, he was a handful in training and experienced pro’s struggled to contain him.
All youngsters have to earn their game-time, indeed all professionals have to earn their game time. It’s how it works at football clubs. That latest training clip, he’s clever skipping past Branthwaite, that’s the type of thing they’ll be wanting to see. It’s ludicrous to think Dyche is holding him back.
…I’d be 100% delighted and I’d 100% praise Thelwell.
My major concerns are I’ve not seen ‘signs’ we have a proper player on our hands, Dyche would definitely be using him more if he was the real deal, SL were happy to move him on and bring in Gyrokeres. I’m not writing him off, I post my concerns. Actually liked a couple of bits from latest training vids.
I’m wanting him to now do what Alan Whittle did and come into the side late in a season and make a huge difference.
To think we were actually being linked with Gyokeres earlier, he's been banging them in in Portugal
