2018/19 Yerry Mina

[evertonarntwe]

Funny how if you actually read my post you'll see I don't actually blame him for that goal. I actually blame Walcott for that stupid header back to our defence for no reason but the fact still remains zouma should of tracked vardy when kean pushed out.

You didn't even mention tgoufg you said the ball bounce off keanes50p head

Keane didn't header it. Walcott and more importantly Keane where at fault for that goal so to use that goal as your "example" is weird

 

[Papa Shango]

That's why I think we need to bring in players who are used to zonal. There's no point in bringing in new cb's who have to learn it all over again.

They shouldn't need teaching though. They are professional footballers. You can learn how to play zonal defence from renting out a book from the library (are libraries still a thing?).

Ideally you would want someone who has played it forever but its been 9 months now, they should have picked it up by this point.

 

[billyblue80]

Mina hasn't adjusted yet but he hasn't had a run either. I would like to see Mina and Zouma together.

 

[Bluewolf]

You didn't even mention tgoufg you said the ball bounce off keanes50p head

Keane didn't header it. Walcott and more importantly Keane where at fault for that goal so to use that goal as your "example" is weird

My apologies I've just watched it back and kean miss controls it. I always thought he headed it.

Now you go back and look at zouma. He stood next to vardy then he just let's him go.

 

[billyblue80]

We need a new leader at the back whether that's Mina or a new player we will see. Lascelles is the type we need.

 

[latchnmac]

Lascelles has had so many ripped backsides this season they've ran out of butt plugs in Newcastle.

 

[billyblue80]

Lascelles has had so many ripped backsides this season they've ran out of butt plugs in Newcastle.

Maybe but he's a fighter. Whether it's him or someone else we need a leader back there it might even be someone technically not as good but we need an organiser.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Now you go back and look at zouma. He stood next to vardy then he just let's him go.

The only thing Zouma is guilty of is assuming that Keane wouldn't mis-control and make a complete balls up of the situation. The second Keane fluffs his lines, Vardy is off and Zouma reacts a split second too late.

In a perfect world, Zouma would have reacted quicker and beat Vardy for pace to the ball (despite Vardy being the right side to receive the pass), but there is no way he's to blame for that goal after Walcott and Keane put him in such a ridiculous position.

 

[Bluewolf]

Mate there are two glaring errors in that goal, and Zouma isn’t one of them.

None of our CBs have covered themselves in glory this year, but your singling out of Zouma for particular criticism is baffling to me, I think you’re watching another match.

Keane has been pretty poor, especially post-Xmas. Mina hasn’t looked up to the job at all. Zouma hasn’t been great either, but to be honest I think he’s the first CB on the team sheet due to his sheet lack of decent competition.

What the fact zouma is marking vardy then just let's him go is alright by you? No wonder you think zouma is our best cb.

 

[bring the ghost on]

What the fact zouma is marking vardy then just let's him go is alright by you? No wonder you think zouma is our best cb.

Is the fact that Keane miscontrolled and fluffed his lines alright by you? No wonder you think keane is our best CB.

 

[DaChunk]

Really like Zouma. Worried Mina might turn out to be another Klassen.

 

[Bluewolf]

Is the fact that Keane miscontrolled and fluffed his lines alright by you? No wonder you think keane is our best CB.

Oh my god use your brain! How many times has kean misscontrolled the ball and it's lead to a goal? Not that many.

How many times has zouma let his man go because he's day dreaming and it's cost us a goal?

Keans was a mistake anyone can make those. Zoumas is a constant in his lack of defensive intelligence and that's the point it's not wheather this instance was the one that cost us a goal it that this part of his game costs us goals In general.

Look at the goal against city he gets so caught up ball watching he totally looses his man and doesn't even end up jumping for the ball.

 

[Raino85]

Lascelles has had so many ripped backsides this season they've ran out of butt plugs in Newcastle.

He's the lynchpin of the 5th best defense in the league this season

 

[evertonarntwe]

My apologies I've just watched it back and kean miss controls it. I always thought he headed it.

Now you go back and look at zouma. He stood next to vardy then he just let's him go.

but mate keane should control that ball, any half decent player controls that ball not a single problem, zouma shouldn't need to move out of position to follow vardy around there because keane is an absolute donkey

in theory if zouma did follow vardy and then say someone from leicesters midfield ran into the space left by zouma following vardy and he found the ball and slotted you would still blame zouma

 

[Lanolin]

Oh my god use your brain! How many times has kean misscontrolled the ball and it's lead to a goal? Not that many.

How many times has zouma let his man go because he's day dreaming and it's cost us a goal?

Keans was a mistake anyone can make those. Zoumas is a constant in his lack of defensive intelligence and that's the point it's not wheather this instance was the one that cost us a goal it that this part of his game costs us goals In general.

Look at the goal against city he gets so caught up ball watching he totally looses his man and doesn't even end up jumping for the ball.

You're sort of arguing against your own point here, in your desperation to somehow salvage some semblance of coherence after you completely ballsed up the original point.

If Keane never miscontrols the ball then there's no need for Zouma to assume he will on this occasion, and he's therefore quite within his rights to let Vardy go and hold his own position like a good centre half should. Zouma letting Vardy go only becomes an issue if we believe that Keane can't usually be trusted to stop a ball travelling at around 1mph from going past him and so Zouma should always be alert to the possibility of him cocking up. Unfortunately you've inadvertently stumbled on a valid line of argument there.

Keane's dreadful, he hasn't improved one iota this year, we've just hidden it better. Zouma has lots of faults but is at least not lacking most of the attributes I would look for in a centre half, and Mina has looked pretty ropey from what I've seen so far, but can be given plenty of slack bearing in mind the injuries and acclimatisation he's been dealing with.