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  • WOOL

    Votes: 17 37.0%

  • Wirral

    Votes: 14 30.4%

  • Welsh

    Votes: 15 32.6%
  • Total voters
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Tramps_mate said:
The river Mersey comes from Manchester... :Blink:
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No it doesn't.

It originates mainly in the Goyt valley (I've been, you can go, it's a stream), which is in Derbyshire, and runs through Stockport, which is in the ceremonial county of Cheshire.

There are there main tributaries if I remember correctly, the Etherow, Goyt and Tame. The generally accepted start of the Mersey is at the confluence of the Tame and Goyt in Stockport but older maps, place its start a few miles up the Goyt at Compstall. The 1911 Britannica says "It is formed by the junction of the Goyt and the Etherow a short distance below Marple in Cheshire." A 1784 map shows the River Mersey extending to Mottram, and forming the boundary between Cheshire and Derbyshire.

Greater Manchester is an artificial county (as is Merseyside) with actual Manchester nowhere near the Mersey, so I'm claiming Cheshire/Derbyshire. It may run through a couple of small areas near Manchester - namely Urmston, Sale and Stretford (all in Trafford and therefore historical Lancashire, not Manchester) - but it doesn't come from there.
 
Groucho said:
No it doesn't.

It originates mainly in the Goyt valley (I've been, you can go, it's a stream), which is in Derbyshire, and runs through Stockport, which is in the ceremonial county of Cheshire.

There are there main tributaries if I remember correctly, the Etherow, Goyt and Tame. The generally accepted start of the Mersey is at the confluence of the Tame and Goyt in Stockport but older maps, place its start a few miles up the Goyt at Compstall. The 1911 Britannica says "It is formed by the junction of the Goyt and the Etherow a short distance below Marple in Cheshire." A 1784 map shows the River Mersey extending to Mottram, and forming the boundary between Cheshire and Derbyshire.

Greater Manchester is an artificial county (as is Merseyside) with actual Manchester nowhere near the Mersey, so I'm claiming Cheshire/Derbyshire. It may run through a couple of small areas near Manchester - namely Urmston, Sale and Stretford (all in Trafford and therefore historical Lancashire, not Manchester) - but it doesn't come from there.
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Where's Trafford? Manchester.. Sad but true.

Mancs wee in it. Scousers fish in it...
 

Tramps_mate said:
It basically is though... That's like saying Kirkby isn't Liverpool... :Blink:
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Knowsley isn't Liverpool just the same as Trafford isn't Manchester, the Mersey anyway probably wouldn't go into Trafford either as it's more Stockport/Cheadle/Heaton Mersey/Sale...Cheshire.

I reckon geographically it's closer to going through Salford than Manchester.
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Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian said:
a Gtr Manchester map, as you'll see Trafford isnt Manchester
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Manchester isn't even the biggest part of Greater Manchester. Greater Liverpool would be bigger than Greater Manchester if we had all local council's "under one roof" as they do.

Clearly, we should go back to being the second city of the empire........

(actually, with the forthcoming superport and combined regional authority, I may not be far off with my humour)
 
As I already have a Welsh surname from granddad on fathers side and have 3 other Irish grandparents I went with Wirral as they aren't completely wool as like whiston, thatto heath, tellins, widnes and them other foreign talking places
 

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