Would you take Martinez back?

[Goat]

Currently Everton have a poor manager and too many poor players.

Not true.

 

[blue76]

Mate, Sheffield United are above us in the table. And they won at Goodison for good measure.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Mate, Sheffield United are above us in the table. And they won at Goodison for good measure.

In fairness Sheffield Utd are above 80% of the teams in the league

 

[Martin Alvito]

Nar, some people think 72 points is quite the achievement, lets be honest, that first season was the stuff of legends, but at the end of the day we finished 5th and the next 2 seasons he utterly crapped the bed.

But some people cant look past that first season.

No other Everton manager will be allowed to fail for as long as Martinez was.

Finishing on 72 points will buy some time.

These "Would you take X back" questions are silly. It almost never works for the conquering hero to go home again (you could ask Chelsea fans about Mourinho or Liverpool fans about Dalglish), so bringing back someone divisive is just not going to work out.

 

[Seathestars]

People's heads spinning off because they cant handle the truth that they were had off by Moshiri. That's at the heart of the venom directed toward RM. He left, as you wished, and then the promises of Mourinho and Galacticos never turned up, and instead of dealing with your own naivety you doubled down on the Martinez insults.

I saw what happened to the esk from some: another case of people not accepting their own responsibility for being duped by the carpetbagger.

There's always a scapegoat it seems.

A little bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss.

You make some fair points Dave although I don't think it was personal with RM
In fact, myself personally, and I'm sure a lot of other blues too, if you could have one of our recent managers succeed I would pick RM all day.
He tried to do the right things, he spoke well of Everton at all times as far as I remember, he tried to give the players confidence and paint a rosy picture.
It just seemed to go pear shaped for some reason but there was something about him I couldn't help but like.
I would wish him well no matter what he does, as oppose to Koeman who I can't stand with a passion, not because he was poor, but because of his attitude towards us, it was the complete opposite of RM.

 

[Yank]

There's no talent, of course, in a manager making those talents work together is there?

Their is of course a talent in that. I'm not denying that, however, it's a different job setting up Everton to win vs setting up Belgium. He's done well there, I won't take it away from him.

But what about your millenial gibberish. That's the post I want to see you explain because I'm quite sure you're completely wrong on that one.

 

[davek]

Their is of course a talent in that. I'm not denying that, however, it's a different job setting up Everton to win vs setting up Belgium. He's done well there, I won't take it away from him.

But what about your millenial gibberish. That's the post I want to see you explain because I'm quite sure you're completely wrong on that one.

I dont follow this.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Finishing on 72 points will buy some time.

These "Would you take X back" questions are silly. It almost never works for the conquering hero to go home again (you could ask Chelsea fans about Mourinho or Liverpool fans about Dalglish), so bringing back someone divisive is just not going to work out.

I’m sure both sets of fans were complaining when those managers were lifting silverware again. Saying that the only premier league Everton manager I’d have back would be Moyes.

 

[Big Sams Little Pecker]

Finishing on 72 points will buy some time.

These "Would you take X back" questions are silly. It almost never works for the conquering hero to go home again (you could ask Chelsea fans about Mourinho or Liverpool fans about Dalglish), so bringing back someone divisive is just not going to work out.

Mourinho won the league in his 2nd stint and Dalglish won the league Cup in his.

 

[Barry Rathbone]

oh dear Lord is this another parody account?

The “Moyes decent sides” which lost on a penalty shootout to Fiorentina in the last 16, or lost in the cup final to Chelsea, or the one that finished 4th, or the ones that finished 5th or 6th a few times, all on a shoestring?

Martinez’s idea of good shoestring players were Atsu, Kone, Alcaraz, McGeady.....whereas Moyes idea of good cheap players were Peinaar, Arteta, Coleman, Distin, Howard etc etc

you either only started following Everton in Martinez’s first season or Dave has created another account to annoy people.

what an absolute pile of unadulterated 5hite you just wrote.

As for the heavy beatings, try casting your mind back to the 4-0 Anfield drubbings under Martinez, when they had about 80 attempts on our goal, or the Sunderland doing the double over us glory, or the regular national embarrassment we were witnessing just before he got sacked.

You make my point - where are the trophies?

 

[Barry Rathbone]

Moyes spent 13m over 11 years, he got 4th and a cup final.

Martinez spent 60m over 3 years, he got 5th and a Semi.

Its not even close to a contest.

Moyes and Martinez both got clubs promoted and relegated but Martinez achieved the holy grail of actually winning a major trophy snaffling the FA cup from multi billionaire champions, City. The Moyes equivalent cup final against champions Chelsea ended in predictable ignominy. Add in Martinez mastery of Moyes in the qtr final and at OT and there's only one manager this club should ever consider bringing back.

 

[Thomasc]

You make my point - where are the trophies?

we haven’t won any for 25 years mate, what was your point again?

 

[Barry Rathbone]

we haven’t won any for 25 years mate, what was your point again?

Martinez was trying to address that prickly little issue in contrast to previous regimes as I alluded to when helping you out earlier with the challenging the elite without their money reply

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[Lelouch]

You make some fair points Dave although I don't think it was personal with RM
In fact, myself personally, and I'm sure a lot of other blues too, if you could have one of our recent managers succeed I would pick RM all day.
He tried to do the right things, he spoke well of Everton at all times as far as I remember, he tried to give the players confidence and paint a rosy picture.
It just seemed to go pear shaped for some reason but there was something about him I couldn't help but like.
I would wish him well no matter what he does, as oppose to Koeman who I can't stand with a passion, not because he was poor, but because of his attitude towards us, it was the complete opposite of RM.

This is the only positive I can give Martinez he really tried to make you believe which felt nice for a bit until results on the pitch started going sour, I certainly don't despise him like Koeman but yeah.

 

[GwladysPhil]

Mate, Sheffield United are above us in the table. And they won at Goodison for good measure.

Chris Wilder lad