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[Del]

someone got beheaded about 9 months ago in london, no one gave a ****... happens to a soldier and is done by muslims - Entire country loses the plot and goes ape ****.

mugs

I agree mate

I just can not understand why the country is in such uproar over one of our soldiers being murdered in London in the middle of a packed road 400 yards from his barracks by two crazed muslim extremists

Everyone chill out

 

[carlos21]

Not all Muslims are like that mate, most of them are sound.

it is okay mate.

 

[liambroley]

When its gangs killing each other, whose arsed?

when its a innocent man, who was walking the streets, then we are arsed.

Exactly!

 

[steken1]

Oh right, under attack from Muslimists with ray guns right? Please confirm, I need to know who I'm being attacked by. Thanks

Muslimists??? Ray-guns???

The security services of this country and countries we share common interests with have never faced the numbers, sophistication and resources they now fight on a daily basis. This info is out there in the public domain should you choose to educate yourself.

The fact that they risk their lives all over the world to ensure that yours is unaffected is clearly lost on you with your awful piss take that I'll bet not one person found funny. There was a group recently that luckily turned out to be three lions esque. It was common knowledge within their communities what they were up to.

 

[steken1]

I presume they're soldiers? Although in theory the comparison could be considered the same I think in reality it's really not. There's a difference between being in the heat of battle/at war and also actually being a soldier, as opposed to two psychos mauling someone in the the street.

I doubt any British soldier would go and behead an innocent civillian someone in broad daylight in the street if one of their officials told them to do so.

I think your making the mistake that these people view the world the same as you do.

They don't view that person as an innocent civilian. They view him as a combatant in a war. They view themselves in the same light.

Normal sane people are capable of murder and creating carnage. Don't fall into the nonsense that you have to be a lunatic to kill or hurt others.

They knew what they were doing. It was planned. The reactions after show they knew the impact of their actions and that's what they were looking for.

 

[EFC Si]

I think your making the mistake that these people view the world the same as you do.

They don't view that person as an innocent civilian. They view him as a combatant in a war. They view themselves in the same light.

Normal sane people are capable of murder and creating carnage. Don't fall into the nonsense that you have to be a lunatic to kill or hurt others.

They knew what they were doing. It was planned. The reactions after show they knew the impact of their actions and that's what they were looking for.

I'm not saying they weren't influenced by islamic extremists, and I actually DO think that it is a problem in this country that can't be ignored (as proved by yesterdays event). The problem I have is that these people are labelled 'Muslims' when they're not, and the whole innocent, peaceful muslim community in this country are blamed and discrminated for it. Even though they're about as extremist as you and me.

Of course you don't have to be insane to kill people, but these two guys yesterday were clearly off their barnets.

 

[Jags..class]

How would he like if someone beheaded someone he loves like his parents or children, hope the ****er gets what he deserves in Jail.

 

[steken1]

I'm not saying they weren't influenced by islamic extremists, and I actually DO think that it is a problem in this country that can't be ignored (as proved by yesterdays event). The problem I have is that these people are labelled 'Muslims' when they're not, and the whole innocent, peaceful muslim community in this country are blamed and discrminated for it. Even though they're about as extremist as you and me.

Of course you don't have to be insane to kill people, but these two guys yesterday were clearly off their barnets.

They are Islamic extremists. They weren't just influenced by them. You say they're not 'Muslims'??? Why? Because they don't fit your definition of it? There's whole countries that follow a similar doctrine to what these types of people believe.

The Koran isn't like the bible. It's to be read as if God is speaking directly to you. That means the book is open to interpretation by the reader. Most find a Mullah, or teaching, they believe and follow it. They are Muslim and will be considered as such by a large percentage of the muslim world.

If the moderate Muslims of this country genuinely wanted to rid this country of extremism they could let the people in power know who is radical and we'd all be a million times safer this time next week. They don't because it's an insular sector of society that doesn't believe in the sovereignty and laws of this country.

They were not off their barnets. They made a conscious decision to attack a British soldier to make a political or religious point.

 

[Allezfan]

If the moderate Muslims of this country genuinely wanted to rid this country of extremism they could let the people in power know who is radical and we'd all be a million times safer this time next week. They don't because it's an insular sector of society that doesn't believe in the sovereignty and laws of this country.

By the same argument if the people of liverpool genuinely wanted to rid this country of criminal gangs and drug dealers they could let the people in power know who is radical and we'd all be a million times safer this time next week. They don't because it's an insular sector of society that doesn't believe in the sovereignty and laws of this country

 

[EFC Si]

They are Islamic extremists. They weren't just influenced by them. You say they're not 'Muslims'??? Why? Because they don't fit your definition of it? There's whole countries that follow a similar doctrine to what these types of people believe.

The Koran isn't like the bible. It's to be read as if God is speaking directly to you. That means the book is open to interpretation by the reader. Most find a Mullah, or teaching, they believe and follow it. They are Muslim and will be considered as such by a large percentage of the muslim world.

If the moderate Muslims of this country genuinely wanted to rid this country of extremism they could let the people in power know who is radical and we'd all be a million times safer this time next week. They don't because it's an insular sector of society that doesn't believe in the sovereignty and laws of this country.

They were not off their barnets. They made a conscious decision to attack a British soldier to make a political or religious point.

They do not follow the same religion as the vast majority of Muslims who will be be blamed for this.

That implies that most of Islamic community know who is a terrorist and who is not.

 

[kenada_blue]

That bloke has probably never ever been involved or witnessed first hand the atrocities in other countries that he's claiming hes doing it for.

Called it first.

 

[Del]

Somewhere at some time in this country someone of Muslim faith has brain washed these two men into thinking that the acts they carried out yesterday where ok in the eyes of god

That is a problem

IMO any seen or heard to be preaching such hate should be deported from this country

 

[micknick]

IMO any seen or heard to be preaching such hate should be deported from this country

Im up for this. Wouldnt be allowed in other countries.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

They are Islamic extremists. They weren't just influenced by them. You say they're not 'Muslims'??? Why? Because they don't fit your definition of it? There's whole countries that follow a similar doctrine to what these types of people believe.

The Koran isn't like the bible. It's to be read as if God is speaking directly to you. That means the book is open to interpretation by the reader. Most find a Mullah, or teaching, they believe and follow it. They are Muslim and will be considered as such by a large percentage of the muslim world.

If the moderate Muslims of this country genuinely wanted to rid this country of extremism they could let the people in power know who is radical and we'd all be a million times safer this time next week. They don't because it's an insular sector of society that doesn't believe in the sovereignty and laws of this country.

They were not off their barnets. They made a conscious decision to attack a British soldier to make a political or religious point.

Spot on that Ste.

 

[kenada_blue]

You have to clarify "their" people.

That feller sounded about as cockney as Chas and Dave. Unless he's been involved or had any personal ties to anything to justify a "revenge" attack, then he's no place to become somekind of martyr or religious statement.

Until the truth comes out, we wont know. But I bet any money that he's done that out of his beliefs fueled by propaganda rather than some revenge mission because his family, town, etc were killed by our military.

Should work for the po-lice