Will we ever see the end of 4-2-3-1?

[wesh]

Based on what I’ve personally gathered from Silva’s comments and overall approach to the game, do you think we’ll ever see him abandon this dreadful 4-2-3-1 formation that. Just. Doesn’t. Work.

What would you have him do?

 

[Berenger]

Did you watch the second half last night?

 

[TheBigIguana]

The thing is the system doesn't have to not work. It's the way he's going about setting up the system that is causing it to not work.

That said I do think the best teams have shown that a system that allows the wingers to act more as true forwards is the way forward in the modern game. So 4-3-3, 3-4-3 or something of that nature would be best.

 

[sageyefc]

433 ftw

 

[wesh]

Did you watch the second half last night?

Adjustments made in desperation don’t quite equate a change in his overall approach, do they mate

 

[wesh]

The thing is the system doesn't have to not work. It's the way he's going about setting up the system that is causing it to not work.

That said I do think the best teams have shown that a system that allows the wingers to act more as true forwards is the way forward in the modern game. So 4-3-3, 3-4-3 or something of that nature would be best.

I do feel like this would bring Richarlison back into the fold. I feel like 4-2-3-1 is the worst for him especially.

Imagine this 4-3-3

Iwobi.........Kean........Richarlison

Bernard....Delph/Gbamin....Davies/Gomes

Digne....Mina....Keane....Coleman/Sidibe

Pickford​

 

[dannyboy]

The thing is the system doesn't have to not work. It's the way he's going about setting up the system that is causing it to not work.

That said I do think the best teams have shown that a system that allows the wingers to act more as true forwards is the way forward in the modern game. So 4-3-3, 3-4-3 or something of that nature would be best.

The problem more than any formation is the ability of the players. We've still got Schneiderlin starting which is just embarrassing. You can play any system you want but with him on the pitch you're wasting your time.

 

[wesh]

The problem more than any formation is the ability of the players. We've still got Schneiderlin starting which is just embarrassing. You can play any system you want but with him on the pitch you're wasting your time.

That may be a waste of time in CM, but after seeing the speed and creativity Iwobi and Kean brought yesterday, seeing them plus maybe Richarlison lead a line would be a remarkable change. Obviously it doesn’t fix everything, but it could be a start.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I do feel like this would bring Richarlison back into the fold. I feel like 4-2-3-1 is the worst for him especially.

Imagine this 4-3-3

Iwobi.........Kean........Richarlison

Bernard....Delph/Gbamin....Davies/Gomes

Digne....Mina....Keane....Coleman/Sidibe

Pickford​

Bernard is very lightweight and has never really played anywhere but LW. I don't see him being a box to box type central midfielder despite his admirable work rate.

Best way to play that in midfield for me is honestly Gbamin/Schneiderlin behind Gomes and Delph. He hasn't done it in years but Delph at Villa was an excellent player in that role. It's how he got to City.

 

[TheBigIguana]

The problem more than any formation is the ability of the players. We've still got Schneiderlin starting which is just embarrassing. You can play any system you want but with him on the pitch you're wasting your time.

I know he's the classic whipping boy and he has done a lot to earn it but was Schneiderlin honestly worse than Sigurdsson last night? He was better than Gomes for sure.

 

[Frang]

Complete wesh of time

 

[yakublue]

I do feel like this would bring Richarlison back into the fold. I feel like 4-2-3-1 is the worst for him especially.

Imagine this 4-3-3

Iwobi.........Kean........Richarlison

Bernard....Delph/Gbamin....Davies/Gomes

Digne....Mina....Keane....Coleman/Sidibe

Pickford​

Problem is it stops digne getting forward if he has Bernard and iwobi ahead

 

[Dougie]

Bernard is very lightweight and has never really played anywhere but LW. I don't see him being a box to box type central midfielder despite his admirable work rate.

Best way to play that in midfield for me is honestly Gbamin/Schneiderlin behind Gomes and Delph. He hasn't done it in years but Delph at Villa was an excellent player in that role. It's how he got to City.

Yeah I was just about to put this myself we would have balance in the midfield the front 3 have pace power intelligence that would be are best 11 problem is there never fit haha

 

[Desaparecido]

Yeah I hope it changes to a 433 but of the CMs are slow and don't have the ability to defend against counter attacking there not much can be done

 

[wesh]

Complete wesh of time

And yet you still wasted your own time to comment that. What say you Frank, you’re obviously intrigued