Where is the Snide?

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No, not talking about everyone's favourite neg spinner, the King of the Snides, @the sniderman .

I'm on about at Everton.

I don't think anyone in here would be putting the likes of Cahill, Carsley, Distin, Reid, Fellaini etc into their top 5 most talented players to have played for the Club. But they knew how to leave that rogue foot in, whinge at the ref, generally be a pain in the anus while the more gifted around them did the flair stuff.

Even Arteta, on form a thing of footballing beauty, was not above a bit of snide grassing, literally and metaphorically jabbing his finger in the opposition's eye.

You look at this current Everton side, and you are just not seeing it there enough.

We've had McCarthy's cultural high point tackle on Payet. Barry got Costa brewing with malice. But on a regular basis? Jagielka almost looks apologetic when decisions go against us. Kone does a sort of wry grin that only an automatic contract extension can raise. Cleverley snivels a bit, usually from behind the opposition's back, hiding just out of view in case play swiftly restarts and someone tries to give him the ball.

I suppose you could say Mirallas, but he's snided himself out of the side with his red mist mania. Osman's grassing is now limited to that second volume of his autobiography you're all going to be buying, last minute, for your poor Blues supporting relative next Christmas.

Just a little bit of malice while Del twinkles past people at the other end. A pestering platform if you like.

Are we missing a bit of snide?

*looks to the Main Stand lights for a signal
 

No, not talking about everyone's favourite neg spinner, the King of the Snides, @the sniderman .

I'm on about at Everton.

I don't think anyone in here would be putting the likes of Cahill, Carsley, Distin, Reid, Fellaini etc into their top 5 most talented players to have played for the Club. But they knew how to leave that rogue foot in, whinge at the ref, generally be a pain in the anus while the more gifted around them did the flair stuff.

Even Arteta, on form a thing of footballing beauty, was not above a bit of snide grassing, literally and metaphorically jabbing his finger in the opposition's eye.

You look at this current Everton side, and you are just not seeing it there enough.

We've had McCarthy's cultural high point tackle on Payet. Barry got Costa brewing with malice. But on a regular basis? Jagielka almost looks apologetic when decisions go against us. Kone does a sort of wry grin that only an automatic contract extension can raise. Cleverley snivels a bit, usually from behind the opposition's back, hiding just out of view in case play swiftly restarts and someone tries to give him the ball.

I suppose you could say Mirallas, but he's snided himself out of the side with his red mist mania. Osman's grassing is now limited to that second volume of his autobiography you're all going to be buying, last minute, for your poor Blues supporting relative next Christmas.

Just a little bit of malice while Del twinkles past people at the other end. A pestering platform if you like.

Are we missing a bit of snide?

*looks to the Main Stand lights for a signal

There's not many of them about unfortunately and nearly all of the ones that play in the Prem - Cattermole et al, are just snides first and footballers second.
 
Absolutely, not many successful teams I can think of that didn't have someone prepared to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in. Bobby worships at the alter of pep but even he had biscuits in midfield who is a proper snide
 
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Great question. Besic needs to be in the side to up the snide quota.

Best moment for me was Cahill strangling Alonso on the ground as we put three past the RS. He knew what it was about.

I agree with the Cahill shouts generally.

But to improve the quality - and he was better footballer than he got credit for - we had to go with more talent there to sacrifice the snidey. If Fellaini had been more consistent, maybe he was the combination we needed.

The thing is you want someone who loves the confrontation so much that they are even prepared to do it to unsuspecting teammates - Fellaini vs Osman in training apparently according to the Skem Snitch's book being an example. Could you imagine Jagielka leaving one in on Rom after the international break shenanigans? You can't even imagine him having an under the breath moan.

The club needs some leaders, but it also needs some fighters. It's another minor disconnect with its fanbase - you just don't look at those 11 on the pitch and think they'd scrap it out for the club
 

Are we missing snide or are we missing leadership in general?? Do they go hand in hand? Terry was a snide Gerrard was a snide Keane was a snide. for me we are missing someone who possesses both of these qualities because simply having snide ala Savage Catermole Barton isn't enough unless they possess leadership qualities to go with it
 
I agree with the Cahill shouts generally.

But to improve the quality - and he was better footballer than he got credit for - we had to go with more talent there to sacrifice the snidey. If Fellaini had been more consistent, maybe he was the combination we needed.

The thing is you want someone who loves the confrontation so much that they are even prepared to do it to unsuspecting teammates - Fellaini vs Osman in training apparently according to the Skem Snitch's book being an example. Could you imagine Jagielka leaving one in on Rom after the international break shenanigans? You can't even imagine him having an under the breath moan.

The club needs some leaders, but it also needs some fighters. It's another minor disconnect with its fanbase - you just don't look at those 11 on the pitch and think they'd scrap it out for the club


Whats osman said in his book? Hes grassed on fellaini?
 

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