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One of the first slowcore-ish bands, although their music is a bit more dreamy than quiet/loud/quiet which a few were like at the time

The singer mark kozelek is a bit of an idiot which probably held them back a bit, but he is really good. Some of his solo stuff under Sun Kil Moon is brilliant, but he puts a lot of music out
I went to see him about 15 years ago, first time I went to the tremendous Union Chapel in London.
 

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