What are you currently listening to?

summerisle · October 4, 2018

And the B side

magicjuan · October 4, 2018

Shame we lost this voice 2 years ago today. Caroline Crawley. Sweet as...

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summerisle · October 5, 2018

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Parker · October 5, 2018

One of them songs that you hear so many times that you don't realise quite how brilliant it is, like Smells like teen spirit. An amazing song and the riff after the skatting is colossal. Add in that its one of the best music videos of my lifetime and you have an absolute classic.

longers · October 5, 2018

Parker NSNO said:
One of them songs that you hear so many times that you don't realise quite how brilliant it is, like Smells like teen spirit. An amazing song and the riff after the skatting is colossal. Add in that its one of the best music videos of my lifetime and you have an absolute classic.

Smells like teen spirit is an all time classic (overplayed to death) written by one of the most respected rock groups of the past few decades which crossed over multiple genres and helped populise an entire sound outside of its own genre/scene. It will still get played on the radio and tv for decades to come.

Freak on a leash is a korn song

Parker · October 5, 2018

longers said:
Smells like teen spirit is an all time classic written by one of the most respected rock groups of the past few decades which crossed over multiple genres and helped populise an entire sound outside of its own scene. It will still get played on the radio and tv for decades to come.

Freak on a leash is a korn song. Nu Metal is something best forgotten, like Happy hardcore.

I'm well aware how good Smells like teen spirit is as it was written by my favourite band. Nu Metal had its moments and it gave us brilliant bands such as Korn, Deftones, Slipknot and Limp Bizkit (fight me). Of course for every Deftones you got a Coal Chamber but you get that with every scene. I think you underestimate just how big Freak on a leash is, especially in America.

Alanbileysfeathercut · October 5, 2018

Yazz murdering her own song on this morning

longers · October 5, 2018

Parker NSNO said:
I'm well aware how good Smells like teen spirit is as it was written by my favourite band. Nu Metal had its moments and it gave us brilliant bands such as Korn, Deftones, Slipknot and Limp Bizkit (fight me). Of course for every Deftones you got a Coal Chamber but you get that with every scene. I think you underestimate just how big Freak on a leash is, especially in America.

Fair enough, we all like what we like, but.... and im about to go full music snob here...

Limp Bizkit are legitimately one of the worst groups in any genre of music to ever exist with the absolute worst frontman ever who couldn't rap or sing to save his life and was responsible along with Jonathan Davis for some of the most hilariously cringeworthy lyrics that have ever been penned. Wes Borland was a talented guitarist though, talent that was completely wasted in a nu metal group.

Deftones were and still are pretty good but they were smart enough to dissasociate themselves from Nu Metal pretty much straight away as they saw it for the train wreck of puberty ridden cringe that it was. This is why they have generally outlasted most nu metal groups and are still viewed as credible.

Slipknot was what all the 'pretend to harm myself' melts at the local youth club listened to along with coal chamber, talented musicians but again... unbelievable levels of cringe, especially their token DJ which was the in thing back in the late 90s for nu metal.

Korn were just Korn, they were at least original when they first came out in the early 90s but they had gone fully down the commercial nu metal bandwagon route by the time the third LP came out, it was like their first 2 albums but sanitised and made more consumable to the masses (like limp bizkit after the first lp). The rawness of the first two LPs was gone, instead we got an over produced mainstream record designed to shift units at the peak of their fame.

Nu metal is best forgotten imo and is widely viewed in the metal scene as a big dirty stain on it's history. Please note I don't particularly care for traditional metal either so im not some metal snob... only 'metal(ish)' bands I can stomach listening to nowadays are Deftones and Tool.

Either way grunge will for the most part be looked back upon favourably, Nu Metal won't be... its when dude bro's got into metal and tried making it cool, metals not meant to be cool.

Parker · October 5, 2018

longers said:
Fair enough but.... and im about to go full music snob here...

Limp Bizkit are legitimately one of the worst groups in any genre of music to ever exist with the absolute worst frontman ever who couldn't rap or sing to save his life and was responsible along with Jonathan Davis for some of the most hilariously cringeworthy lyrics that have ever been penned. Wes Borland was a talented guitarist though, talent that was completely wasted in a nu metal group.

Deftones were and still are pretty good but they were smart enough to dissociate themselves from Nu Metal pretty much straight away as they saw it for the train wreck of puberty ridden cringe that it was. This is why they have generally outlasted nu metal groups and are still viewed as credible.

Slipknot was what all the 'pretend to harm myself' melts at the local youth club listened to along with coal chamber, talented musicians but again... unbelievable levels of cringe, especially their token DJ which was the in thing back in the late 90s for nu metal.

Korn were just Korn, they were at least original when they first came out in the early 90s but Jonathan Davis is one of the worst singers in any group ever (he literally can't sing) and they had gone fully down the commercial nu metal bandwagon by the time the third LP came out, it was like their first 2 albums but sanitised and made more consumable to the masses (like limp bizkit after the first lp). The rawness of the first two LPs was gone, instead we got an over produced mainstream record designed to shift units at the peak of their fame.

Nu metal is best forgotten imo and is widely viewed in the metal scene as a big dirty stain on it's history. Please note I don't particularly care for traditional metal either so im not some metal snob... only 'metal(ish)' bands I can stomach listening to nowadays are Deftones and Tool.

Either way grunge will always be looked back upon favourably for the most part, Nu Metal won't be... its when dude bro's got into metal and tried making it cool, metals not meant to be cool.

I pretty much agree with everything you say there. Yeah, Fred can't rap, the only frontman in rock music who can actually rap is Zach De la Rocha from Rage against the Machine imo, but it's all about the cartoon nature and bounciness of the riffs from Wes Borland for me, and the rhythm section for Bizkit is top notch.

JD was patchy in the old days with his voice but now he can definitely sing live. I will say that in regards to the first 2 LP's from Korn being grittier than Follow the Leader, Life is Peachy was mostly written at the same time as the self titled. So the lyrical subject matter will be very similar to it. They also parted ways with Ross Robinson for the 3rd album if I'm not mistaken so that explains the production being cleaner. Also I think it would be disingenuous to do the same lyrical themes on Follow the Leader as they aren't the same kids from California at the time of recording. They will have matured and their personalities change, they've become famous and wealthy and I'd imagine the lyrical themes reflect that (ie. Got the Life). The lyrics can be ridiculous though, I can imagine you aren't a fan of "All in the Family" with Durst and Davies trading insults off each other. Not particularly for me either tbh.

Slipknot are arguably the biggest modern metal band around today (Avenged Sevenfold are not far off) and their self titled debut release is unbelievable. Coal Chamber aren't in the same sport never mind league.

The thing with Grunge is is that it is a blanket term for a group of bands that sound nothing like each other but emerged in the same geographical area, Seattle. Pearl Jam sound nothing like Soundgarden and Nirvana sound nothing like Alice in Chains. Grunge, and in particular Pearl Jam, also gave way to the Creeds and Nickelbacks of this world too though so it isn't sinless.

Nu Metal is an acquired taste though so I fully understand your dislike of it, especially the bloated bs that it turned into.

dholliday · October 5, 2018

Parker NSNO said:
I'm well aware how good Smells like teen spirit is as it was written by my favourite band.

What's your Nirvana top 3?

I'd go:

1. Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (best rock song of the 90's? maybe)
2. Milk it (best rock lyrics of the 90's? Yes)
3. Endless Nameless (Dave Grohl's best drumming? Almost, 2nd to Scentless Apprentice)

that raw have-it! Nirvana is my Nirvana. Also like a lot of Bleach/Incesticide but Nevermind hasn't aged well, the production is headache-inducing shiney.

bonus: Best Nirvana cover: Tricky feat. Hawkman - Something in the Way