Wayne Rooney

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I put it to you that Wayne Rooney is the only reason for the relative success of Everton over the Moyes era. In most part because of the money generated from his sale.

Now the power of that money is fading so is the club.

Said this in my 28-1 post, spot on now you will see the pound for pound value of David moyes, which many people think he's the best pound for pound manager... Similar to Amir Khan!..... o-v-e-r-a-t-e-d
 

Mostly agree...

The 1st season we where all excited, because of Rooney, not any of Moyes signings, and we scared teams because of his unknown element...

Season after we where poor, as Moyes had no other ideas after the initial high, and a combination of Moyes misusing Rooney, and at times relying solely on his talents, we just looked clueless.

The season after, the 4th season, was all about backs to the wall, triumph over adversity... the reason? The sale of Rooney, a true low point in Evertons history...

And after that, we did basically survive on the pitiful, pitiful transfer fee

So yeah, I would say that you where right in those respects.

But giving Moyes some credit, and it is due, he made it work in the most part since Rooney left. As bad as we are now, and we are bad, we could have easily collapsed after Rooney left. But we didn't, we actually improved.

I think he has lost all of his initial drive and enthusiasm, and his negativity is rubbing off on the squad, rather than the brash **** you attitude we had back then. Its like his approach to the "superior" teams has now shifted to every team we play.

And it blows.

I agree with this. the origional poster has a point that could have been discussed. so if you don't agree with him or are not interested don't ruin the thread with you boring jokes. fcuk off on to another thread.
 
Its a crazy idea. A player sale doesnt deliver many years improvement. When Moyes arrived we were going down. Rooney was a revelation and possibly galvanised the team when he left, but we have continued to improve until the last couple of years where we have stagnated. It is not just down to Rooney money running out but poor management of the club financially.
 

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